I bought a 2012 Odyssey in 2012 and did not know about this problem. I have a feeling that next week when I call they will say itll be another week. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. I dont really feel tight trying to sell car outright know the potential of whats about to go wrong . (133000k miles) on this vehicle, does the timing. In oct 2018 had po301 code og miss fire cost $700 and tonight its happing again. to claim cash from in our Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. Honda wants me to pay 25%.. Im like why? I have the same problem. Valve lash adjustments are considered a maintenance procedure which should be done regularly and the customer pays for. Since this is a complicated repair, you should expect it to take some considerable time. Despite being beyond the 8 year extension period as a result of the lawsuit, Honda picked up the tab for 75% of the repairs ($3000). The proposed class action settlement was preliminarily approved by U.S. District Judge Susan Illston on Oct. 9, 2013. Took it to Honda and paid $350 for diagnostics. Booo! I purchased it in 2018. Sounds like I should trade it in for 2014 ? What Im wondering is whether the initial repair likely fixed the problem, or whether the problem is likely to crop up again. your claim status, claim form or questions about when payments are This is definitely later than the suit deadline. They get paid from Honda so why do they try and not let it meet the criteria??? It seems like it burns about a quart every two to three weeks. I immediately called and spoke to the service manager at the dealer. It cut out on me in rush hour in a tunnel (I live on the peninsula in Virginia and travel to the south side via tunnel) Now I am scared to death to drive this car and unfortunately I owe so much on it, it sits parked. Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information. I'm terrified to have it happen to me againbeing on a busy interstate when my van starts losing power and is difficult to maneuver. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. I will also be asking for a history printout to show, weve been in, several times, and no one brought this to our attention. The fins on the original cylinder heads were straight front to back. My 2010 Honda Odyssey with only 40,000 miles had flashing engine light. I took it into the dealer and the mechanic quickly recognized it as an engine problem and bet me I was out of oil. This warranty covers any defects or malfunctions in your new VCMuzzler II. I wasnt going for that crap, especially when I overheard the service manager talking about this defect two years ago. Engine pistons in these vehicles may not have been properly hardened during a heat treatment process. Also am i going to get a rental to get me back and forth to work? Under an extended powertrain warranty progRam, Honda has agreed to replace spark plugs and clean affected piston rings to correct an engineering fault. My car has 36350 now and is out of the factory warranty. This recently to my wife while driving on a busy highway. Always love them never more. Auto machine shops usually stay busy so having a cylinder head tied up for several weeks or more is not uncommon depending upon the workload. Im not leaking anything, but if I dont check the oil regularly, Im certain Im going to damage the engine. Although piston rings are some of the least expensive parts of a car engine, they are essential to the effective operation of the vehicle. My car is currently with dealer price quoted $4200 for piston (back base or something). yosemite: better an engine that starts up and idles for 5 minutes out of very hour. Its Fri March 26, 2021 and it wasnt until another car shop printed out the lawsuit and handed it to me, that I found out about this. Engine repaired as required under settlement. Over the last 2 years I had 2 misfires and had to change the spark plugs. Thank you for the help! I ran into the same issues Ive only had my 2008 Honda Accord EXL for 3 yrs & had nothing BUT, problems! Isnt Honda and their dealers required to DISCLOSE/ADVISE/MAKE PUBLIC to buyers of vehicles they sell or have for sale that are with in the parameters of the vehicles with the flaws included in a class action law suit?? The 2009-2013 Honda Pilot is the subject of two TSBs for the piston rings which may fail at roughly 72,000 miles or compromise spark plugs. I am highly upset, in that, I purchased the car new in June 2013 and records online show that Honda new about this issue BEFORE I purchased the car. The vehicle burns a quart of oil every 1000 miles. I only recently learned about the issues with VCM reading threads on OdyClub, and even though my '07 Touring with 130K miles doesn't have symptoms (high oil consumption, fouled plugs, etc.) Theres 3 or 4 of these semi-circles all together, and the gaps in the rings must not align, otherwise the aligned gaps create a path for oil to leak past the set of 4 rings. Have not had any misfire issues or fail codes with it to date. I had a friend of mine hook up his personal scanner and found out cylinder 5 was misfiring. After having it two months spark plugs started going out, it was using excessive oil, and the engine was misfiring all the time. They stated they would check the spark plugs and coil but they were backed up and would have to keep it over night and run a diagnostics again the next morning. I know this Sux.. but thats all I know to do at this point.. Had the same problem with my 2011 Honda Accord. Now same thing is going on with it but the codes are for the catalytic converter this time..all 3 are blown now and blocked. The TSB is the result of A-A-Classction lawsuit. BEWARE! I am going to try that number and see what happens. - Bristow, VA, USA thank you! I am trying to see if Honda is paying for any repairs. My car does shudder a bit between 20 and 50 mph when it deactivates some of the cylinders. The pistons are shaped like mushrooms and move up and down in the cylinders. Ive already spent well over the cost of the car & become in debt due to continuing problems!! They assure me that this repair can take a long time). They checked the spark plug and it was fouled. You will get the same problem less than 15-20k miles down the road after the recall fix, seen it too many times. There goes my time being wasted!! Email me please at brandynchris2015@gmail.com, I just bought a 2007 Honda Accord 3.0 l and I keep getting check engine light and I put on scanner and it tells me cylinder 5 misfire I already changed coil pack and spark plugs I did not know anything about the lawsuits what am I suppose to do. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. Known issue 2009-2013 Honda Pilot that resulted in class action lawsuit. Content on odyclub.com is generated by its users. odyclub.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Mine started vibrating and running ragged, took to shop, they replaced fouled spark plug, within 2 days it happened again. I have a 2009 accord and this just started happening a few months ago!!! Dealership plans to replace 4 spark plugs and 4 rings on the piston. buy used Honda Pilot 2012 CarMax never told me that I had manufacturing defects buying the 8th of December 2014.a two weeks had a 30 hour trip to mexico and passes to get the check engine, misfire I fix honda mexico but I did not like how they handled the sale mintieron.si I think you know that a car defects do not buy these cars bring several shortcomings and the loser here is the customer, buy used Honda Pilot 2012 CarMax never told me that I had manufacturing defects buying the 8th of diciembre.a two weeks had a 30 hour trip to mexico and passes to get the check engine, misfire I fix honda mexico but not I liked how I handled the sale mintieron.si I think you know that a car defects do not buy these cars bring several shortcomings and the loser here is the customer. The dealer updated the PCM software and replaced spark plugs. The VIN entered is invalid. Had the motor replaced as a result of the piston ring issue/failure in 2021. This is a brand new DNJ Piston Ring Set Oversize .020 in. Vcm muzzler will make your engine run rich all the time.. the solution is going tona tunner shop and have them disable your vcm from the program, An explanation why the VCMuzzler would make your engine run rich all the time would be lovely but there is none. Honda is saying that cylinder 6 is not covered under the lawsuit settlement. I might ask how much are they charging you for all of this? Replacement of or failure related to any seal or gasket. Now, it is just the engine light. I just had my 2008 EX-L 4 cylinder with less then 81K rebuilt for this exact issue. And then so did two more. He then told me I was outside the deadline, and still need to pay the diagnostic bill of $166. I just want to ensure that if i donothing, that a warranty extension will automatically be in force, protecting my vehicle for a period of time. Thanks HONDA! I have a 2008 honda accord exl and my car just started this within the last couple of months!!! My 2008 Honda Accord EXL was burning oil at 30,000 miles. I told them that it had been overfilled and that I had it checked both before and after their checks and know there is a Class Action Suit and that they fudged the numbers to make it not need the fix. I bought a 2011 Honda pilot used from a Honda dealer and was never informed of this issue- Is my Pilot still covered under the extended warranty under the settlement until 2019? They say thats causing the sputtering .. Thing is if the misfire issue isnt completely fixed the new cats will just blow again from the heat. This has not improved gas mileage after over 16k additional miles. I am wondering if this issue has anything to do with the piston ring failure that caused the motor to have to be replaced. Its time now that other Honda owners who have the same issues as others here, Get together another class action suit against Honda. Im having the code for cylinder 1 and I had to replace all of my catalytic converters is there anything that it can be done? the recall began october 30, 2017. owners may contact honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. honda's numbers for this recall are o07, y0a, n06, g05, m04, y01, and o09. Lawsuit ? It also has a grinding sound when I first cold start it after it sits for hours at a time. My 2012 Odyssey had misfiring and they replace coil, spark plugs and etc in 2015. I was notified about 2 different recalls: one for the airbag and one for the shift lever and immediately took it in and had it fixed. Its unfair to not also be included in the settlement when we had no way of knowing this when we purchased our vehicles!! Maybe someone can help meI have 2010 Honda PilotI was driving it on the highway..The check engine light came on as well as the VTM-4 lightIt didnt fell any different. A car's piston rings regulate engine oil consumption and oil pressure. Then the engine light started flashing and my car started shaking so I turned it off and now I have to get it towed to Honda to fix. I took it to get the codes read and said It was a cylinder misfire. Im having the same issue with my 2008 Honda Accord 4-cylinder. Senior Tech said it just needed a replacement spark plug, nothing else (asked about computer software upgrade, etc.). My husband called (per the dealership) and asked for coverage and she told him that we dont have enough length of ownership for her to extend the goodwill coverage request for us. :( :(. Installing a "muzzler" will in most cases fix the problem. as of summer 2013 vibration has gotten less (70-90% does vibrate every now and then only when cold, still very small vibration is felt at idle even when warm). This engine has had some troubles. The total was $3200 after negotiating to lower the cost. Notes: 494 90K views 7 years ago Installing VCM Muzzler II on a 2012 Honda Pilot to disable Variable Cylinder Management. Bought a 2009 Accord 4 Cylinder and Im having to put quite a bit of oil in too. Did you ever get anywhere with your case manager? at 113,000 the first p0303 code comes in, offered the full piston ring redo, or plugs tubes and valves, we did the later do to cost. All maintenance must be performed at Team Honda. This is soo UNFAIR!!! Hi, I appreciate the number you left on your message. 13V016000. Honda is extremely unsafe! To receive full compensation for your vehicle repairs, Class Members must submit a valid Claim Form with a copy of an original repair invoice or receipt plus proof of payments for repairs or replacement of parts on a Settlement Class Vehicle by April 10, 2014. I have been mulling over my options for two weeks now. since day one vibration @ idle when cod, 95% less when warmed. I have been running Mobile 1 synthetic since new so I am thinking that thicker viscosity oil may reduce the oil getting past the piston rings. The problem was diagnosed by the dealership service department I just showed up with 2 engine lights on. Piston rings on some cylinders can rotate and align, which can contribute to the fouling of the spark plug. I think I've done 25-30 of these piston/rings cars and they are not bad to do. I was one a few months passed the 8 year cut-off for the extended warranty to have helped. My husband checked and spark plugs will be $16-20 each. Believe in having an engine misfire issue. Like are they really not going to pay to fix it even though there is a WHOLE lawsuit about it, and my car has every single symptom stated in the lawsuit?? That can be time consuming. Sticky
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I have a Honda Accord 2008 and my engine light began to blink and then the VSP light came on. I have had misfire and jerking but the salesman told me that it was normal with ESO so how will I be able to get the extended warranty in the event my problems are just beginning. Local dealer is wonderful! It involved with the removing of the valve cover and adjusted all intake and replaced engine spark plugs not sure if this is related to the misfire and whether or not this is eligible for the reimbursement based on the misfire (no code on the invoice, so I have to look into it with the dealership). Cal.). this is a bullshit settlement. It took me awhile to figure the problem out, and after new spark plugs and googling I have the vehicle running. I decided to get the car fixed at the dealer since the vehicle was stranded there. Long story. 2 months wouldnt be that unusual, depending on parts and machine shop availability. 2011 Honda Pilot misfiring. I wasnt going for that crap, especially when I overheard the service manager talking about this defect two years ago. The 6cyl refers to the Crosstour only. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Top Class Actions is a Proud Member of the American Bar Association, Various Trademarks held by their respective owners. Honda obviously is refusing to fix the problem. I started out with 1 quart every 2500 miles right out of the car lot, 2 years later its a quart or more every 1000 miles. Have not had any problems with the 4 speed, does not burn any oil! My car was dropped off with an appointment on July 16, but I dont know how long it sat before the diagnosis, etc. My pilot is now the third car which is now the dog and winter car. possibly the most discussed issue/topic on this forum. They replaced the spark plugs and I did not have to pay out of pocket for anything. I have an 08 Honda Accord. The deadline for this has already passed by 5 years however i purchased this car from dealership almost 2 years ago. Told salesman to fix the problem with check engine light and vsa light. Plus this makes the 3rd time in 4 months Ive had to pay 300 bucks to get my truck fixed. I am scheduled to return to follow up with the dealership. American honda is extending the powertrain warranty to cover repairs related to engine failure (which causes dtcs p0301 to p0304) to 8 years of unrestricted mileage from the original date of purchase and has resolved a class case on the basis of this remedial measure. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. As long as you are changing the plugs, you put a few shots of KREEN into each plug hole and let it sit overnight. Nope! They (Boch Honda Norwood Ma) just told me i have massive interior engine damage. Waiting until engine blows up and they have to replace under extended warranty I purchased when I bought this car in fall of 2014. I have a 2009 Honda Accord that is a 4 cylinder. Please let me know how you get your issue resolved with Honda because im having the exact same problem. my 2009 Honda accord 4 cylinder has check engine flashing, VSA, Triangle all on. I really didnt want to argue with the Service Manager over the phone and really appreciated what they did to get my wife in and out as she needs to be back home later today. And also I have a 2004 Honda van now with its 2nd recall on it its going next! Im having the same problems with my 2009 honda odyssey. I agree Im having problems with my 2010 crosstour. I was stranded several times with it misfiring so bad that I did not feel comfortable driving it, several complaints to Honda and no answers so I got rid of it Best thing I did! Closed. After reading all your similar problems I think they know what the problem is but dont want to admit it. Although this issue is related VCM, this was not included in the settlement :-(. I have been having these issues for last few months. Test drove one 3 years ago and the VCM was already bugging me in a 20 minute ride. The dealership set me up with a rental car on 11/26/13 when the excessive oil burn was found. If you have any recalls on your Pilot, reach out to Honda's customer service at 1-800-999-1009 to get the ball rolling on repairs. They said they had never seen anything like it and could not tell me what was wrong with it without digging into the motor at my expense. P.O. And, the oil after a couple 100 miles is black and smells burnt. Only thing I can do is drive it and trade/ sell it after the warranty. We drove roughly 75,000 miles since those piston rings were replaced. You can also check with the dealer, which will know which (if any) recalls pertain to your car. Any suggestions? Have owned Hondas since 1998. Now I need a timing belt. Major engine repair can lead to a lot of down time. When it had it the car will vibrate quite a bit, and the VSA warning light comes on along with the check engine light; The code disappears quickly though. Then yesterday I saw the new generation on the road. Knowing what collateral damage WILL eventually occur from this condition is a major concern. 2013-01-18. The quote to perform the work is $3500. Exactly!!! I have a new 2013 Pilot with 5000 miles , have had no problems yet , Do I sign up for this class action to offset future costs ? I'm a believer. The dealership then performed the second part of the mandatory repair replacing the piston rings. Can some one help me with being a part of this class action suit? I'm just worried that my rings may be damaged and may go on to cause other problems. As part of the settlement, Honda will extend the powertrain warranty on these models for eight years (from time of purchase or lease) with no mileage limitation, and it will also reimburse. 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