I have a 2000 Outback with very bad fuel smell during the winter. Mechanic suspected gas tank leak at top of tank, but smell has since gone and no trace of leaks visible on tank. Can you explain exactly what fuel lines to change (maybe a picture with arrows to the right hoses), and whether we should use aftermarket hoses or trust more Subaru ones? Ascent Forums, The Largest 2019 and newer Subaru Ascent community & owners club. A normally functioning system may pull in fumes around you if they are excessive like they are in the winter months, this is why the recirculate feature is there, to stop fresh air from being pulled in. I received a recall notice for a fuel pump problem. The pump is under the back seat. I'm guessing here but think this may depend on the quality of workmanship and the dealership. I get that.. there is a leak somewhere M Mike C Registered Joined Aug 26, 2018 514 car sits in garage (unusual) for a few days during the big 22/48h snow storm w a lo temp of -10F.. 1 cup worth of gas puddled below a seam line-just shy of the rr passenger door never smelled gas but car stay out side My 2004 Subaru Baja Turbo has had this problem for the past 3 winters. My hunch is that if the recirc feature is used the situation will improve. The 2019 and newer. If the leak in the tank is at the bottom of the tank the limit to how much fuel can leak out is how much is in the tank, if the leak is at the top or somewhere on the side such as the seam the limit to how much fuel leaks out is the level at which the leak is occurring. Just replace rubber line, or is there more involved? I don't know WHY they wouldn't have techs trained and equipped to empty a gas tank routinely before starting a job like this. Your Subaru Will Struggle To Start Its Engine. Most likely its just going to need to have one or more fuel line clamps tightened up with that kind of mileage. The cars recalled include Subaru Outback wagons manufactured between June 29, 2018 and Feb. 19, 2019. I had my fuel pump replaced under the recall, this last Thursday. Has anyone else had their fuel pumps replaced as part of the recent recall and had their cabin have a strong smell of fuel afterwards? Retrieve your username. All of the hose clamps are installed upside down, not just one or twoALL OF THEM. Ascent Forums, The Largest 2019 and newer Subaru Ascent community & owners club. Tribeca Smells Like Gas: No Fuel Leak. Bean Edition 180,000miles As part of that commitment, weve made it easy to learn more The fix: Dealers will replace the low-pressure fuel pump free of charge. But did they skip over another This should result in less accidental spillage by the techs. Assuming I resolve the injector issue, what kind of replacement cost should I expect at a non-dealer mechanic? The smell is very strong the colder it is. Not looking forward to a $600 charge (more in Cdn$ !) for life. Thanks for the feedback. JavaScript is disabled. Gas can leak from a variety of places in your Subaru, from the gas I personally feel better about an older car aging and having some issues, rather than a new car that leaves me without it or tries to kill me, feels much more like a design flaw over something that happens many years later, doesnt it? I was doing 80 on I-75 , the engines push faded just enough to feel but not slow down.. it didnt sputter(like running out of gas) but I felt I couldnt maintain speed/ push fuel to engine/ whatever that power flow is, it wasnt there for a split second. Replacing tank would have been $1000+ and not fixed problem maybe. Yes. car still running, just shy of a 1/4 tank. Thank you Bernadette. Learn more about the cookies we use. I am sorry but I have no idea how much someone else would charge you to work on your car. administrator or law firm. I drove it a bit yesterday and today - no lights or indicators presented themselves, so hopefully I'm in the clear and just need to let the cabin air out a bit more. on Bringing the vehicle to Subaru with low fuel level is a good suggestion,definitely will keep this in mind . There are a lot of things that can cause you Tribeca to smell like gas. Subaru Recalls More Than 165,000 Cars and SUVs to Fix Stalling Engines - Consumer Reports Consumer Reports has the latest on a fuel pump recall involving There are 2 very typical, minor but very strong smelling fuel leaks we see lots andoftenthis time of year. Wife is happy now and what is better than that. Since this is a newer OB and not a cold weather problem I have to post my question! I was probably about a 1/3 tank full bringing it in, and I'm hoping the service manager took that into account when asking me if I wanted to have the service done while getting my tire changed out! IF so, is that normal? document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_3" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_4" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Please note: Top Class Actions is not a settlement I want an excuse to take it back and get it cleaned again. Reset your password. 2013, 20 degrees out. I would do as suggested and look around for any fuel leakage front to back. Pretty vague to say you had a fuel leak somewhere twice and paid $800 and $1200 to have it repaired and just doesnt help anyone. This is the second recall related to fuel pumps on Subaru vehicles. I just wonder how many people must die for a car company to have a recall. Not enough cars are affected For Subaru to issue a recall, and same goes for class action. Mice and other rodents do in fact wreak havoc on all sorts of vehicle systems and yes you cant really expect a car company to warranty something chewed by a rodent, if you are concerned just ask to see the old parts, it should be very obvious that is what occurred. With the recent cold (-12 today here in Colorado Springs), I noticed twice this week the STRONG fuel smell driving into work. but wouldnt it have stopped running if it was out of gas? settlement administrator or your attorney for any updates regarding Notify me of follow-up comments by email. My advice, DO NOT DO THIS JOB ON YOUR OWN, pay a qualified technicianbecause its a pain in the ass. And they didnt charge me. It kinda infuriates me the longer I think about it, actually. For its part, Subaru said it had no evidence the flaw has actually caused any accidents or driver injuries. Is it the grade of the hose, or the length, or the clamps? You had better have 6 hands to line all the fuel lines, intake bolts and all the other crap that gets in the way, up. There, a technician will install a new fuel pump with a higher density. My 2012 Subaru Outback started having the very strong gas odor inside the car and in the closed garage after I filled the tank and left it in my closed garage overnight. Typically, the smell is caused by some type of fluid (oil, trans fluid, etc) hitting the exhaust or other hot parts of the engine or something rubbing where it shouldnt be. If you call SOA without fist going to a Subaru Dealer and having the condition diagnosed, there is no protocol, if you go to a Subaru Dealership and have it diagnosed, you are than advised its not covered under the 5 year 60k powertrain warranty because its out of warranty, you can always ask for some help but there is no guarantee they will help, especially if its not a typical issue, or caused by corrosion due to the elements, which I can only speculate because your post is a vague rant. This will avoid clogging, reduce fuel flow, engine cutoffs and Seen your post and I have a 2017 legacy thats doing the same thing. If you have just gassed up, you may have pulled somewhere where fuel was on the ground. I love the car, but the PO did not maintain it well through many Chicago winters. Thanks in advance. A burning rubber smell is almost always, in fact, burning rubber. Since 60k Ive had to replace the fuel lines twice at 1200$ and 800$. I was test driving the car after trying ti fix an exhaust system rattle and noticed a distinct fresh gas odor both inisde the car and outside as well. In the shop we see a few every winter for some minor fuel line related smells most repaired for under $100, and a few from the East coast with rusted away fuel filler tubes (Which actually occurs because the owner never cleans the debris out of the inner fender liners after the season) the mud holds moisture and rots the pipe away slowly over time. Jan 15, 2007. Thought it would go away after a few days driving with windows open. It sat for a long weekend Gas caps are inexpensive and easy to replace. Automotive; Parts & Accessories; WIX 33040 Fuel Filter Gas Pump Line gm. While I hope I can speak for all my fellow techs when I say we take utmost caution in trying not to drip any on the carpet, it's easier said than done with the ascent's design in particular. Mark. If gas fumes are related to a gas cap or any other thing allowing fuel vapor out of the fuel system it would cause a CEL to come on. If your vehicle had a fuel or exhaust leak that would also be a condition that would need to be addressed regardless of the car pulling fumes in. Just had this recall done and no fuel smell it actually smelled better than when I dropped it off after hauling around some muddy wet kids! They checked cabin filter and put smoke under hood to see where it was being drawn in and found nothing. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I have a 2019 Ascent and took it to the dealership to replace a damaged tire and they said they could replace the recalled fuel pump. I took my car in for the recall to Gilman North Subaru after a day at the beach. Today (-12F) it was so bad I could barely drive the card. What we have had to do was turn the screw with a pair of pliers( backwards) .. If tank pressure drops too rapidly, the computer throws a check engine (or similar) light for an evaporative emissions system leak. Just my opinion. To try and help you understand how the new car and warranty of works. dealer looked and said: not the pump, I ran of Gas? I will write all this info. Click Change Settings if you want to tailor the use of your cookies. The controller Pulse Width Modulates the power going to the fuel pump. Temp dropped in the 20s again. Top Class Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://reddit.com/r/hondainsight/comments/gwv18z/what_we_know_the_fuel_pump_recall_check_here/. Tech discussions, turbo & tuning and more. So my question is does this mice chewing on the line sound for real? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. See also: Subaru Tribeca Fuel Pressure Regulator Diagnosis. Got the smell of gas inside cabin after a refill (I didnt overfill, just standard filling). I have been driving my car for about 6 months now and on random occasions I get a gas smell when I fill the tank all the way. I aired the car out today for several hours since it was nice and breezy and that seems to have helped a lot. I have owned 13 subdues in my household sive 1996. I tightened the clamp with a small phillips and the leak stopped fotunately for now. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Some Turbo models can be a little more to repair if its under the intake manifold I will point out however. You say it only affects 2000-2004? for informational purposes only. I am not sure we would all be better off in a GM with a faulty Ignition switch where people did die, even though the defect was acknowledged, or how about a Toyota with acceleration issues or the fact they couldnt keep a floor mat from killing people. WebA total of over 180,000 Subarus in the U.S. are affected by this fuel pump impeller recall including; 2019 Subaru Ascents produced from June 26, 2018 through January 18, 2019, A total of 86,278 of those models are affected, the CarComplains.com site says. Now playing: Watch this: 2019 All involving 2019 model year vehicles. Check out this sticky thread for more info. Sorry the Forester has let you down and I truly hope what ever you buy next, treats you better. Subaru did the right thing by recalling over 200,000 vehicles that are at risk of stalling out because of a defect in their Denso fuel pumps. Now which is at fault, the fuel pump or its controller? Subaru Ascent Complaints, Issues, Problems, Defect, Subaru Ascent Complaints, Issues And Problems. Campaign code WVK-21 has been assigned to this regional recall. I doubt the tank has to be dropped to get the fuel pump out. After driving, there is a gas odor near the passenger rear tire. I was told that this is a common Subaru problem. An auto shop ought to have a means of evacuating gas from a gas tank temporarily. The problem: An improperly manufactured fuel pump could develop cracks and fail, which may prevent the vehicles engine from starting or cause it to stall while its running. Its my 2 one and this problem just started it never happened with my other Subaru when it is below 20 the gas smell is beyond crazy. My garage is in the basement of our townhouse and I worry the odor will spread from the car to the house. Subaru says it is unaware of any crashes or injuries related to this issue. Subaru Impreza hatchbacks and sedans 40,797 of them manufactured between June 18, 2018 and Feb. 25, 2019 were also recalled. A cars fuel pump moves the fuel from the cars gas tank to the engine. Gasoline smell when fuel tank is above 1/2 full. I got my fuel pump recall in the mail earlier this week for my 2019 and took it to the closest Honda dealership to have it replaced. problem #2 next week 1. I have a 2019 ex, It is not for all Insights. Its horrible. Thanks for the postings. Have you truly verified the fluid you are seeing is fuel? I don't care whose fault it is. There were about 35k miles on the car when this started happening. Since you did not smell the gas when you picked it up it sounds like they did not The fuel line clamps were tightened. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 2023 All Wheel Drive Auto LLC. Recently, I began working on a 2005 Subaru Forester XT with this same issue. I have a 2004 forester xt. Im going to keep my fingers crossed and try some these suggestions.Please wih me luck. This is just a follow up to a prior post about a strong fuel smell on the very cold mornings after the car has sat overnignt. Consistent with other posts, they said they pull the back seat out and go down into the tank through an access panel. The Honda Insight, award-winning hybrid since 1999. The factory clamps only get so-so tight. In some cases, the vehicle might not start at all, according to the automotive website Autoblog. Over time, the impeller may become deformed enough to interfere with the body of the fuel pump, potentially causing the low-pressure fuel pump to become inoperative, the recall report says. Just had a below 10 night here in Chicago and gas smell returned. Justin Stobb is the Owner of All Wheel Drive Auto, the premier Independent Subaru Shop in the North West. If this condition occurs, vehicle occupants may notice the smell of fuel. The original recall letter said 90 minutes. Youll smell gas until it is not longer overfilled. What a lousy design by Subaru, and to then let the consumer deal with the maintenance bills without notice. Since then, I've driven with the windows partially open, parked in the garage with the windows open, and left the car when parked outdoors with the windows cracked. This is definitely a design defect that Subaru has know about for over 12 years but refuses to either change the design in the new cars and fix them in the old. As the cars Did notice on the repair ticket that the fuel tank was emptied before the fuel pump replacement and then the fuel was replaced afterwards, seemed like a good idea with less chance of fuel spillage. Even though its very likely that its a benign reason, always give the smell of gas the respect it deserves until you find the leak. Additionally if the wire insulation melts the fuel pump can short out and stop working. It is sad that Subaru wont man up to this problem. If this happens while the vehicle is in motion, it could cause a crash. 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