((I'm not sure but it sure looks like your trying to say I'm being truthful within your expectations. Right? Maybe you need a break from the IMPORTANT questions and you could indulge me
I have argued that the important thing here is the discussion and not if "you are" or "you are not" a TT. The word rendered "trading" in the NKJV translation of Ezekiel 28:16 is a form of the Hebrew noun rekulla, which means "traffic" or "merchandise." If not then I wish you either a quick recovery or a great career as a Sci Fi writer.What can we gain from this discussion? You stated elsewhere that they repulse a Chinese invasion -- Does this mean Australian government side with your enemy? He is responsible for the questions, not you. Maybe the reason we are all on this board now is to find this out.You mention the nature of Canadians but I don't think you mentioned the impact of all of this on that country. Posted by Doug Beauchamp on 02-16-2001 05:38 PM. The ad, mysteriously appeared on Art Bells site last night. Everything I know about your time is from books, magazines and old videotapes that weren't destroyed in the war. you come here & want us to "help" you by asking questions.. so you can figure out how -we- percieve things & why we think the way we do but you do not recipricate the efforts. I might just be really quick at looking up things up on the web.I suppose we could debate whether or not I'm a fraud all the way up to the point I leave your worldline.Posted by Mel Reckling on 02-14-2001 08:05 AMWhy do I keep flashing back to the Monty Python movie " Brazil "? What all are you taking back with you? We could submit that to voice stress analysis. Some of which can be government. Yet any number of the things that you have said could have already caused an individual to do or not do something that will now result in them either dying, or escaping death an otherwise fated death. I am not familiar with Art's site what is the name of the program on the time travel organization audio and how do i find it? Geez was I wrong! How are the five people within the 100 miles contacted? PS my time machine works all the time i call it the human mind it takes me to any time line I want and it runs on Imagination. They are not and I apologize. Similar to the GIs they will then go on to engage in global conflict.John -- You were born about halfway into this cycle. ((I believe that faith AND good works will get one to God. ((Will you readily be able to identify the enemy.)). I would have to study the posts a little more carefully, though I would say that the variables used in computing projected postionings, rely heavily on detecting these known masses as opposed to trying to figure out where they would end up in space (and time). I'm sure it's there. you say popular music would be subjective..but i say: even though i am not a fan of rap music..i know it came to the forfront in the 80's.. run dmc.. the fresh prince.. ton loc. However, because of pride in his beauty, this cherub's wisdom was corrupted. John -- in looking closely at this device, I see there is a hand control unit -- with some sort of screen on it. I have, and continue to believe Dr. Hawking's view in regards to the possibility of time travel if indeed the model of time is what you have suggested, that all possibilities occur in different time-lines, in different universes is the way that time truly is. They would, if they could believe it, GRAB and hold time travelers -- checking the veracity of their stories and preventing them from having any interaction with anyone.Sound about right John?I have a distinct feeling that I want to "believe" that John is truly a time traveler. ds^2 = -a^2dt^2 + w^2(df -- wdt)^2 + (r^2/ D)dr^2 + r^2dq^2I hope I got the symbols right but you should be able to recognize thisright? In other words.. if John were a time traveler, he would be here NOW to watch something about to happen (very historical, very important). Who want to force life-changes that are not natural to their path? Is any of this a result of your expiriences with biological warfare? What does the display show you (for instance, does it simply show things like time/date calculations, or radiation [probably wrong word] of the fields from the device? I have a couple of questions for John as well, so if you can answer these John, I would appreciate your answers. Again, people have lived through so much hardship that if what someone else is doing does not affect them or harm the community, it's not a big issue.42. (5) You already know that cars are dangerous and planes crash. Miniaturizing the clocks and sensors, creating clever ways to vent x-rays and creating a computer system dependable enough to calculate the changes required to the field were the main challenges. I write code in APL, PLI, Lisp, C, C++, VB, Fortran , Cobol, smalltalk, Java, Python, and a slew of less known languages. He certainly would be at risk of his life in "all probability" because he IS (will be/was -- put in any decriptors based on tense you wish) a threat to national security in "our time".Here is why. (6) Is it possible for you to bump into yourself when you are time travelling? Attach a tone generator to each coil reversing the polarities. Before you say yes and accept that parade in your honor down main street, perhaps you should go forward in time and see if the U.S still had the motivation to make the A-bomb before Hitler did. 4. Be consistent. Being a superpower only makes you a target. Is that the best you could do? (2). I would think that's what makes our interaction interesting. tied to the fate of the mainland US in major ways. Von Neumann, and was known as Daniel John Waters, and had a rank of Lt. Col., in the Psi Corps. Libertarian
The more massive the object, the larger and more influential the time shells around it (like an onion). Again "no Proof".So how is it you propose to expose John? There is a group working on the idea of gravity displacement to get into space but the calculations and error rate are very large obstacles to overcome.13. Tolkien? (In spite of Star Trek storylines). grant, PS Maybe the only place [bicycle distance] in 1976 to go for computer tech was either U.F. It's up to you to prove he is not a TT.So far most of your assertions have been related to either John not answering your questions, or some inconsistency in his story revolving around his Basic training and it's relevance to when he was recruited for time travel. The theorem, which is applicable to right angled triangles in flat Cartesian (Newtonian) space takes the form of: where a, b and c are the lengths of the sides of the triangle. the unit turns off. Yet you have tons of supporters who you managed to woo into believing you without any physical proof. But no, that doesn't matter to you. You have any fears? Everything is relative. Have any of your top leaders or politicians been jailed or impeached?John, any chance of getting a better set of photos with more of the manual?.John please respond to my question as to "the prediction" did I jump the Gun? As I recall, isn't the Cray a rather large system? How many of you can honestly say you remember at-the-time important issues that happened when you were 3! So will the Millenial Kids(MKs). If you are ever in the Denver area let me know I would like to interview you and take a ride in your machine. Efforts
Main communication systems no, CB, sideband and non-repeating short-wave, yes. I can tell you that I'm sure that some of the posters know more about time travel and it's why's and why nots, than they did prior to coming here.The real interesting conversation has been about the culture he describes, and the way they approach life.My comment regarding story lines is accurate. Of course you could trust Art to fess up if you were right!You must be from a very dystopian future to be so cynicalPosted by Nikki Colwill on 02-19-2001 04:57 PMI just gotta say this is some of the best reading entertainment I have had in a LONG time!! Posted by James Boley on 02-06-2001 06:47 AM. ((However, rest assured, if I went to the security office and said, "I have access to a time traveler" I'd get laughed at. Secondly why is this little book so important. 3. Posted by John Titor on 02-02-2001 11:41 AM. How many amateur Physicists here know that answer without looking it up? Would you be considered a member of the Patriot movement today? John has given me at least that tiny hope that somewhere out there, on some time line, someone will indeed do what we've been believing all along. You say you were in the militia fighting the US Army. I am confused by your term "the show". If you truly wished to do this you would not have continued this thread once you realized that line would not serve your claimed goals.)). 3. This could be a good little test. Drive cars? In the not so distant future you may have to actually live up to the Patriotic ideal that gun advocates talk about all the time, and actually have to go out and defend the Constitution. I hope it is true. not revel themselves? I know for a fact that a few "men in black" read this board. Although I have no personal experience with non-mechanical time travel, I cannot discount it. ((The US government Russian or any other, would be in the same boat. I wasn't fortunate enough to go to basic. Military power is based on the number of autonomous fighting men who are actually willing to fight. ..my world, my life, my wandering path. 124 ratings, 4.05 average rating, 13 reviews. Posted by John Titor on 02-19-2001 07:25 PM. His written content seems to be well subdued and consistent. Things of that nature . ((What happens if the experimenter, upon seeing his duplicate, decides not to continue the experiment?)). Saw a Jean Claude Van Dam movie about that once. Unless, and until John comes forward with more information, my opinion is formed and won't change.I did however, post pictures of his time machine (actually, I posted the link where you can find them.. let me be more specific, I've never seen this thing in peson, though I would like to see it).If John wants a way to prove anything -- which from his previous posts he has stated he DOESN'T WANT TO DO -- then I am more than willing to look over his proofs. (ok, i kinda like those bands..but the more modern day ones i care little for..).. i know that madonna for instance was on countless billboards in the 80's & was known for her 'sex' driven image..michael jackson was the 'king of pop'.. -- milli vanilli -sucked- & that 'the new kids on the block' were a rave w/my generation. http://qso.lanl.gov/~bromley/nu_nofun.html. I can't wait to see what the future holds. You would know, and I guess no one else has to. I like to say I sit on a line between where I can go either way. He was the first time travler, if I remember right, he talked of a future solcialistic, self supporting society as well, a ww3, millions die, and so on, but I can't remember what time he said he was from.Posted by Craig Cuthbert on 02-15-2001 11:12 AMI also remember "The Sun Is Not Real" in which a poster had me in stitches with his theory that the present sun was switched to a holographic representation, in the late 70's? 5. As do all phycisists. Is AM still mostly talk radio in your time? I personally enjoy Big Band, some Classical and interesting lyrical pieces from the 1970s and 1980s. Even if I did, you could stop the horse(s) anyway and make it untrue. something that happens in politics on a national level. But when you Time Traveled to the year 2000 you just had to spill the beans to everyone, and are now finally realizing the out comes of your actions might not be wise.Man, how irresponsible is that? We do not live in a racist society but definitely a prejudice one. http://www.xone.net/tti/board/ubbhtml/Forum1/HTML/000367.htmlWe found you TT_0, and now the calvary will soon arrive to expose you here too.-Javier C.A.K.A. You have claimed several times that you will not participate in assisting anyone to get out of 'death by probability'. Moving into other "topographical areas", you would also have to "shift gears" your "sense of timing" would be a bit off, until you either found some groove of activity that you could fall into, or until you could create new ways of "being" and acting, to handle the new circumstances. Did you ever call Carter a coward? He is unaware or dislikes "buy in" or "buy that"
To everyone else, while I'm here, I am very interested in your philosophy, religious outlooks and speculations on technology. . I make hats, scarfs, purses, rugs, dish cloths, towels, etc
((I asked legitimate questions. You claim that you have no interest in proving to us that you are a time-traveller. with two spiral paths running through it's center. I'm sorry you feel that way, especially since you seem to think we ought to be nice to John and not attack him (even though we weren't). You load up all the people who want to go with you in the back of your Chevy pickup, drive from Florida to Minnesota. Whatever you do, don't shake hands with yourself, if you do meet. But looks are deceiving when you have a secret agenda. --
After all, I did put HJYABJ 100 at the end of my post. Please apply some basic Common Sense, Logic
Haven't you had 'futuristic' dreams? Unfortunatly, winners of historical sports betting events are not high on the priority list of people in 2036. Yes, I have friends. ((when i ask you a question of why you can't tell us 'there will be an earthquake in isreal in 2010..' or something of the such..this is not a question that someone could CHANGE. Based on what I know about the nature of time I find this difficult to believe but nothing is impossible. Is it possible to go back 60 years and then another 60 years?2) Have the people of your time proved the "worldline theory?" (3)If you have any pictures of the IBM computer you were susposed to get, could you post a link to them also? Were they pretty resourceful scrappers? like and does your group have a timetravel emblem or group name?Timetravel_0-I wear a standard civilian service uniform during instruction and training. I don't totally understand it but I take no offense by it either. I do feel that some personal attacks are valid. But, when someone comes in loud and strong trying to force everyone to his or her point of view, there is a serious problem. Do you have any idea how you exploited your self here? 34. lead his country's troops to victory is an old one going
which was posted on the TTI forum on January 1, 2001. Minimal distortion. And I'm exposing you. As one twin approaches the event horizon or edge of the black hole, the other twin will watch him as he appears to slow down. Why does water have molecular memory? Is it. This group does not contain aliens nor interdimensional beings, they are human. They spin. I enjoy a good debate as much as the next guy, and Im prepared to back up all my statements. I have to take that to mean that even if he DOES tell you something here, it will NOT affect HIS timeline, since there is some deviation from his actual timeline here. pamelaPosted by Javier Cortez on 02-20-2001 03:38 PMYou flatter your self John. You melt. Or what about telling us something like a hollywood story of someone breaking up, or getting married, good luck trying to change thator of a company's profitsSOMETHINGYou are VERY evasive, and you don't give even a single "iota" of evidencenothingnaddazero. [Edited by Rick Donaldson on 02-13-2001 at 08:01 AM], Posted by Chris Greycheck on 02-13-2001 08:57 AM. It is. It doesn't appear that it ends that simply as the "second" time traveler says that he saw a duplicate self appear in the lab thirty seconds before he started the trip. How many feet out from the car would you say it goes?Timetravel_0-It can be adjusted to some degree. Thus, safe time travel.I will continue with the individual posts next. I am fairly certain that proving anything is impossible. You have claimed several times that you will not participate in assisting anyone to get out of 'death by probability'. The descriptions John provided are much more convincing than his ability to write a given equation. No.. I have argued that the important thing here is the discussion and not if "you are" or "you are not" a TT. Both can be found at the public library, but are worth perusal. ))In my opinion, people "now" take clean water, electricity and their feeling of safety for granted. ))There were deep divisions in Australia also. ved in such endeavors- but I could not understand Al Bielek
This would lead to the prevention of it happening again, and so on. With multiple worlds come multiple decisions and outcomes. [1]
John,
((What happens if the experimenter, upon seeing his duplicate, decides not to continue the experiment? ((1) exposing yourself, you've very likely broken several regulations,No, I haven't. With respect to this folder, what stuck out for me was that the Millenial Kids (recently born and probably up to about 10 or 12 now) were of the same type as the kids who grew up and built the US infrastructure during the 30's and 40's -and then fought WW2. I always thought the TT package meant trailer towing. . "Art's" site is definitely on that list. They spin. Why are orphans an issue? as someone has suggested: over time periods certain types of music run to the forfront of our society. If so explain why?Why does water have molecular memory? I know it can't. Why would a TT'er reveal himself & the TT machine? . John mentions that the mechanical typewriter is a major machine again in the future, but in another post says the Internet still exists and is widely used. Personally, I've taken tracking programs meant for satellites and calulated the projected location of Near Earth Asteroids several times. I think time-travel is possible . The trick is to not turn off your fear when you'll need it the most. ((By the way, I have some very extreme reasons to doubt that a microsignularity exists in the first place, and in the second place, if it DID exist, I doubt it would be the "size of an electron". ))I could be wrong but I don't recall being asked to "explain time travel". (ET TT is another matter)Logically though the revelation of his TT ability still makes no sense, as he could easily question people of this time and get all sorts of info without revealing himself.So that leads to the question why would he reveal himself if he has no stated aganda for doing so?Some hypothesis:1. 2:14; Jam. Deeds and Dogma just don't do it. In the opening phases of WWI, one of the largest problems early fighter pilots had was how to shoot a machine gun through the propeller blades without chopping it to bits. If they have, is there any information you can share with is that proves it?3) Ever hear the story of Edipus? I can get close enough so neither I nor anyone there would know the difference. Plus, History books from that time would probably contain things about the war from 2005, possibly things leading up to the war. ((http://mercury.sfsu.edu/~hl/c.IBM.5100.html))
will that be within two days? Can you at least tell us which cities will be nuked? I would show it to you but it only comes out when I am alone. Time travel. John -- Another question suddenly came to mind. If he would answer some questions about the physics of his alledged time ship, I would be willing to go along with this some more. 20. Good and evil are personal experiences that can only guide what we do as individuals and how we relate to others. On the road he acciddently killed his father and ended up marrying his mother. ))your response:Again, what I think is important doesn't impress anyone and although I could point to various things I've said about other subjects the response is usually ho-hum tell us about music and sports. Again, I will say, that the whole premise of this board is based on the paranormal, and if anything, most of us *already* believe that time travel is a possibility, ncluding myselfso your many posts on this board are on the basis of redundancy. However, my job was to go and get it and not debate why they wanted it. Fortunately, most black holes are not static. I would imagine anything left after that would be vaporized and generate static electricity.Pamela:6.how hot would you say the temperature gets on the outside of the car while in operation?Timetravel_0-Very! ((One final question? I do however require a certain amount of civility to enter into protracted debate, as I believe that the moment you lose perspective, the conversation becomes moot. -- RULE 3, ((2. If you were a real person and you have gone so far as to tell us "I'm real, but I don't care if you believe me, in fact I don't want you to believe me" then you've got a serious problem with reality -- not relativity. I don't think I believe in coincidence. I believe in fact this describes a plot in one or more
I am currently living and working in the Middle East and I imagine that I will become one of the 3 Billion that die during WWIII. Right? ((What all are you taking back with you? I would love to talk physics and I'll be happy to walk through the operation of the unit. Based on what I know about the 5100, it has a few very interesting and worthwhile properties that make it worthwhile for a time traveler to recover. the beatles for instance were alive & famous before i was ever born, yet i know they existed in the 60's/70's. I too would like to take a ride in the rumble seat of your time machine. (4) Please list the price of gold for the last 20 of your years and I can tell you the condition of the stock market in the future. I have to assume further that these are multifunction keys (that is you press one for an alt/control function and other buttons have names or labels and perhaps even numerical meanings). 5. "Although I do understand the reasons for asking, I won't gain from any communication with you by spouting physics formulas and pop culture predictions. geez..why do you isolate that one question? and ICQ is not an option for me. Well, what did happen today? (5)Can I contact you through any other means of online communications? . Would you?Also, regarding your view on the afterlife. and it answered your question. no again, since a well trained person can beat a voice stress analysis by using self hypnosis or having someone hypnotize them prior to recording. 9. 2) What happens with Australia? None of it is enough for me to feel the need to insult you, or be condescending to you as your post was to me. think, was it Asimov or Kurt Vonnegut Jr. who originally authored this scenario? You may be happy to know that although the bridge is gone, Cedar Key is still there.The computer is from 1975, Rochester Mn.Yes, the Pearl Harbor example relates to Y2K. That is yet to be proven, but it has held strong for more than half a
I'd have to get in touch with the "right people" to "report" the incident, and even then the skeptics would over rule the "believers".What this means is, even though John could be consider a national security threat, he certainly is safer than even me, who works daily in government facilities.Now that I have admitted my "government participation" let me tell you MY motive. ))John gave them to me. Posted by Randy Empey on 02-19-2001 01:00 PM. Posted by Roy Meserve on 02-21-2001 05:44 PM. I'm sure it would be unfair and immoral if we had certainty, but the truth is anyone placing a bet on your answer would still be gambling on whether you are in fact from the future. You sound like one of those religious cult nuts whose story keeps changing. john is not a three year old now -- he's 38 he says & unless the schools of the future teach no history then why wouldn't he know these things? I wish to discuss that separately. He eventually settled on eggs benedict during the Renaissance.Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-16-2001 11:35 AMIt is interesting to note that the photos posted on that other site were posted by an "anonomyous time traveler" some time back. The reason I cannot debunk your calculations is because they are true. sonal Reality" by Jane Roberts (circa 1979-80). What do women wear for the most part?Are the Amish alive and well?What is the birth rate?Is there an unusual rate of birth defects and if so what kind?Maybe you should be taking back healthy sperm and eggs.You said that your culture was centered around the Universities. What do you think they would do with two micro-singularities? ((What company were you with, and what year did you graduate from BCT?)). The Nine Nations of North America and/or The Physics of Immortality (anyone recognize this author).ANDREW:
.I am fairly certain that proving anything is impossible. The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to "expand". Going over a few of the posts, and I say that they are full of the classical -- "I find it hard to believe, therefore I declare it to be impossible" -- types of postulates. Why else would I say it? As do all phycisists.How about this? I'd have to get in touch with the "right people" to "report" the incident, and even then the skeptics would over rule the "believers". I was born in 1957. I asked first. Thank you Vega for the information. The effects of novelty could be noticed in little things like misteps and mistakes, or unintended synchronicities that might seem to alter your path. I assume you have all this archived from another BBS or something?What's your part in all this? I'll get to the other questions soon.Thanks.Posted by Ernie Vega on 02-19-2001 02:45 PMWinkHi John:Best I could find is from the Hebrew Ha-Satan, or "the Adversary. . I'd have to get in touch with the "right people" to "report" the incident, and even then the skeptics would over rule the "believers".What this means is, even though John could be consider a national security threat, he certainly is safer than even me, who works daily in government facilities.Now that I have admitted my "government participation" let me tell you MY motive. You seem to think I have tomorrow's paper in front of me. Telling you about impending place crashes or other disasters (provided I could give you exact dates and times) may save lives at one point but cause cascading changes that take others at a later point.I enjoy the posts because it's very hard to remain safe and have a conversation. Since the equation mixes time and space up we have to always think in terms of this new concept: space-time!Then one runs into the problem of 'outside dating'. Sounds like New England during religious persecution and intolerance. (Hearing in my right ear isn't as good as I would like it). The divergence between the worldline of origin and the target worldline would be too great. We have our swamp monsters too. "What would the DOD do to you if they found you out? 38, 39. If you truely did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in 2036, which is the vacuum of space. (for those who would like to follow the developments at CERN)
I find that fact to be rather hard for people to get along with so I don't bring it up directly. There are minor flaws in his stories, but I think there are more strengths than flaws. I suppose we could debate whether or not I'm a fraud all the way up to the point I leave your worldline. Water is important but you must consider that when people need it they will know where to get it. I know for instance that my Jeep is capable of about 198 horsepower. Fortunately, these are things we're taught at time travel school in "how to get around in the sarcastic 20th century. 3. You can't, because you are a fraud!)). I find that fact to be rather hard for people to get along with so I don't bring it up directly. When are you going back? All Rights Reserved. What do you think my goals are? I don't know. ds^2 = -a^2dt^2 + w^2(df -- wdt)^2 + (r^2/ D)dr^2 + r^2dq^2. accelerate as the light is bent around it. Does distillation remove radioactivity from water? ))Yes but there are no large commercial printing and distribution companies. 19:16; Jer. At 100% power, the constant pull of gravity can be as high as 2 Gs or more
I have a 5 questions for you. I don't think you are hostile just a little excited. His site is listed below. Hundreds of people go through these forums a day I'm sure. 2)If each world line is seperate from the others, then wouldn't the consequences of your actions now have no effect on your original worldline? You may leave a message to yourself if you wish. If you truely did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in 2036, which is NOT Earth.. it's space.Get it? 11:13; 20:19). Thank you for your persistence and patience. Actually, you will probably be quite impressed with our internet. I will examine the web site you mentioned. And just for the record the formula for horsepower is something along the lines of reldline rpm X 35 / 6500
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