I cant believe Im actually asking a question. Megan. Kids dont need to do things to look good. But I do think summer experiences can be valuable in developing skills, building confidence, and exploring topics not covered in school. My 11 year old got his letter this week. The biggest obstacle [of going to college] would be being a minority. The website says travel to and from is not included in the tuition. There are so many other wonderful summer programs out there. Thanks (Her Fields) But I did some investigating and found both sources to not be worth the paper they are printed on. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It says a faculty member at my school nominated me, but Im not so sure Ive spoken to him once, so how would he know that I am planning on going into the military? We know we may not have the funds for it, but as a parent, we will find them. An 8th grader mom from California. Thank you everyone who has shared. Hi! I am assuming at least half of my grade got one but just want to be sure. However, I feel as if the marketing materials overstate the prestige. It was worth it for what I wanted to do, but now they wont stop bothering me about other nylf programs that I have no interest in. I suspect none of the kids in the class even understood the process. I cant find any complaints about the safety. He also read the brochure carefully, studied the various activities outlined, handed the paperwork back to me, nodded, and said, Yeah, Id pay money for that. Do you feel it benefits all high school students, or specific to Seniors, Juniors etc. These are not something you can find courses of study on for an 8 year old, especially not one who already knows half the periodic table of elements! Your email address will not be published. Im not sure if these are being read or not, but i believe the most tempting part of NYLF is the fact of the leadership aspect. There were 5 guest speakers ranging from professors at Berkeley to executives at big companies, such as google. Also, they have a youtube page with videos as well and if you check their website, they are a nonprofit. I am a junior and i received the same thing for advanced medicine. A College Prep Saturday participant plays an HSF trivia game, in which he had to spin the wheel and answer questions based on the categories. The program is free, and if you request on your application, they will pay for travel cost. I have 4 kids and dont want to fall into a trap of doing things to look good on a college app. If this program is legit, how did my step-grandson, a 4th grader, get nominated to a program this summer and does not attend the school nor has the teacher listed in the correspondence informing him of the nomination??????? My son just returned from attending the NYLF Science and Technology session in San Francisco. Decisions should come out end of April. It sounds quite interesting and Im sure she would love it but $2000!? Young Leaders' Consortium | 178 followers on LinkedIn. Unfortunately, the pandemic made this mission very difficult. We live in a dying community where the gap between the haves and the have-nots is HUGE. When looking at loans, there are two types: subsidized and unsubsidized. Your email address will not be published. I am now a physician and attended the NYLF on medicine. For more than 30 years, Envision has worked to help students discover their passions, explore careers, and make a difference in their communities. The first is that anyone can nominate anyone to attend and there are no selection criteria for getting in, other than a parent writing a check. I mean I really wanna go but my mother thinks otherwise. To find other programs you can start by Googling summer programs for high school students. Any update on what your son thought about the program? Did you take the SAT? Is this worth attending? A list of children attending, what an invasion of privacy. I was just nominated for the NYLF: Business Innovation 6 days to startup summer camp and I think it is a wonderful opportunity. Find the show on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 My 5th Grade son received the invitation in the mail a couple of weeks ago. kids that have an interest in any of the fields that are presented. I am not happy! Prepare & Support Appalachian Entrepreneurship Academy DC Advocacy Partners Education Policy Fellowship Program Ready to Achieve Mentoring Program Right Turn Career-Focused Youth Transition Initiative I guess I will most likely be not attending. An article in the New York Times in 2009 provides some additional detail: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/education/edlife/leadership-t.html. I just dont want to waste time and money on something with minimal impact on me. We encourage you to apply today via your myHSF profile! But I can say that I agree that they can feed of of the parent & childs desire to attend the program thinking that it will enrich them. I have a detailed discussion of a question very similar to yours on this weeks College Prep Podcast. She mentioned the sponsors of this event, which included Wells Fargo bank, the American Indian College Fund, the College Board and APIA Scholars to name a few. I signed my son up but it looks like I should have done more research on it. If you're considering NYLF because you think it's prestigious, you'd be dead wrong. My guess is that some nomination may be made by school officials, but a majority of letters are sent from mailings lists NYLF acquires. Jackie, Yeah, that's pretty close to what I had figured. I am actually questioning if it is legitimate as he did not apply or sign up. But since it is too expensive, it is not. Ive read all your responses and theyve been EXTREMELY helpful. You and your mother can listen on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 The application workshop dove into what is most important in college applications in comparison to what isnt, how to build a resume, and how to find the college best fit for you. If he could attend and focus on what he is truly interested in then hed get much more out of it (in my opinion). You are completely right. . We chose to not do the residential camp due to her age. I was quite proud of myself, but was confused as to how these people found out about me and my personal information. Best of luck to your and your stepdaughter as you worth through these options. The Youth Leadership Summit is designed to engage the next generation of leaders and introduce them to the world of international affairs. We later determined that she might have accidentally bubbled in science as an interest on the required PSATs. So that leaves $300. If you knew my father, youd know thats practically glowing praise. She just won a superior for her district STEM Fair in Behavioral Science and Im proud as can be. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. With that said, the program is the only I found that will be local enough for her age group. I got nominated and my mom thinks it too much just for one child.1,970$. Dont waste your time or money on NYLF. My 5th grader received his invitation today. They are both for advanced medicine, as opposed to regular medicine. I received the invitation to attend NYLF: Pathway to to STEM for my son Isaac. Jessica, I went to this last summer and it was nice for engineering. Ella, Ella, Still not sure though if this would be a good trip for me. (They never release your exact score.) Hey. The main difference between the two is that subsidized loans require the government to pay interest while a student is in school and unsubsidized loans have students pay the interest themselves. WISH ALL YOU GOOD LUCK AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW MY GRADDAUGHTER ENJOYS HER JOURNEY. How nice of them to solicit nominations, but not mention the cost. I think I will wait for now until he is older. Once you click there you can check out the FAQs too. I got nominated, but I am unsure how they got my name, I havent done any testings listed above, nor do I know how they discovered my want for law school, Megan, A plethora of YLS alumni say that the experience is life-changing, and that it gives students more confidence. I think that it would be a great experience for anyone who got nominated and is thinking about going. it's legitimately a program, but it's also a profit making enterprise, extremely expensive and not worth your while. Not only that, but the Security and Intelligence field is a mighty big umbrella, covering everything from cyber security to data analyzing to being the guy that ensures all the old classified documents get appropriately disposed of. I hope this has been of some help to you. Says in the future. So I have no idea if youre still reading these or not but recently I have received one of their offers in my mail. I find the company, and their business practices, appalling. We covered this topic in this weeks College Prep Podcast episode (starts about minute 22:20.) I hope that stops before he is 18. I am planning on becoming a lawyer in the future and received the nomination letter for the National Youth Leadership Forum. You can tell they are spending a lot of money on marketing. I just talk to too many families each year who were dazzled by the important sounding name. February 22The Stolen Heir A new Elfhame experience, February 16Animation studios should follow in Arcanes footsteps, February 16Mysterious and Spooky Wednesday Addams. Megan. There is an MBA club for both interests at Berkeley Haas. AND MAKE SURE YOU NETWORK!! We discussed a question very similar to this on The College Prep Podcast this week. Marcus, Partner Supporter Our Programs San Francisco 6 Marin 6 San Mateo 10 Merced 5 Fresno 18 Eastern Coachella Valley 3 Long Beach 8 Statewide 5 Madera 4 0 Upcoming Events Featured Stories Exploring The Real Creator of Hispanic Heritage Month One Year After His Death Ive worked in public schools and never saw any incentive to promote this program. Of course, you know your son best. Youth Leadership Consortium; Career Connection Days; College Camp. @Seventeencarat If there is no info to be found online, that should mark a HUGE RED FLAG. Hey guys! The restless sun shined brightly down onto the equally restless morning coming up. Personally, I have never heard of this before, but programs with these big flashy names like Youth Leadership Consortium or National Youth Leadership Forum all tend to be pay 2 play scam programs. Im already doing many medical related volunteer work and im not so sure if its completely worth it now. The day ended with a raffle and an advertisement for the Youth Leadership Consortiums annual Youth Leadership Summit (YLS), a free program for low-income high school juniors in which the students go to the University of Chicago on a four-day retreat to learn about college. They are over-hyped, but they are also legitimate summer experiences that many students have enjoyed and benefited from. Think about how your own child prefers to experience things. How do the kids transport from housing to class? We were terribly disappointed in the staff, content of material taught, supervision, quality of kids and quality of teachers. Last summer my then 7th grader did one week at Girl Scout camp (under $400) and a week-long mission trip in Texas with our church (free). Written by Megan Dorsey on September 17, 2012. Jenny, But the programs are legitimate and good. I, too, find the $2000 cost high, especially for a 4th grader. Maybe you participated in something else that indicated you might be interested in their pre-law program. The experience as a whole looks very appealing and I would love the opportunity to go learn and meet new people who share a common interest. Your advice about researching cheaper options is spot on. But with my parents its mostly about the cost. . The FCC's investigator found that One Eye LLC "transmitted multiple illegal robocall campaigns," according to the news release. I got nominated for the NYLF: National security and I was wondering if it scam? As I described above, it is my strong opinion that this company preys upon, and manipulates, the relationship between classroom teachers and parents. Thanks for the laugh of the week! I actually got accepted into the summit this year and I cant wait! Also, you mention other camps and programs. There were several sources that said it would make little to no difference on applications and if Im going to spend that much money I would like for it to impact my chances of being accepted at least a little. Im also worried about spending all of this money only to change my mind about what I want to do later. This is very helpful. The letter makes it seem as if NYLF is the only way your child can receive this type of recognition and enrichment. It seems legit tbh because its soonsored by a lot of credible organizations- one being Uchicago. Try to find the program that offers the best balance of activities for your child. (starts at about 22:20 minutes) Listen on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ Can you get a job or intern in a medical position this summer? It says it accepts 200 low-income students and will be held at UChicago without any fees, even transportation. I attended it in middle school. If they need recommendations and so forth, there is no way I can do it. I would try looking for a hospital where you can volunteer or get an internship. By soliciting teacher nominations, the camp makes well-meaning parents feel special when their children are nominated. Thank you! Yes, it is not as special as they make it seem. My most important question is which program would have the most impact, the most impression on my student if they want to continue to pursue or not their career path? Also how hard is it to get a scholarship? Wells Fargo has committed over $24 million to HSF, which has supported over 3,000 scholars across the country. Based on the questions in my in-box, I guess it is that time of year againtime for letters notifying students of their nomination for National Youth Leadership Forum programs and the summer experiences you can elect to join. You can call and ask. Theres no way I could go without one. I think it was only so great because of the people I met there, though. Megan, My granddaughter receive letter today in mail about program she very interest in attending dont have funds to attend is there assistance for low income families. NCCEP recommends that a representative from each GEAR UP grant be responsible for submitting one application for all students. as a useful website for easy access and guidance to scholarships. it's legitimately a program, but it's also a profit making enterprise, extremely expensive and not worth your while. We were also thrilled that she had gotten acknowledged for Engineering and Technology. Ok, Im a bit confused I got on of these letters for the National Security Camp I believe. Today I received an e-mail stating that I was nominated for the NYLF medical program. Megan. Personally, I like to see students participate in programs that also enhance their knowledge of the college experience and/ or show their own creativity and willingness to develop their interests independent of an organized program. You can listen on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 It was at San Francisco State, week-long, $2000 for the class, and over $1000 for a hotel (didnt want him in the dorms for a week). Megan. Shannon. so it seems legit and they arent asking for money but I cant find any info on the web. We never got an e-mail from them even though in their last e-mail they said that she would receive an e-mail about the scholarship within two weeks. Megan All slots for the 2023 Youth Leadership Summit are committed. All activities were hands on: We built a robot, programed a helicopter and flew it with a computer, worked with 3-D modeling and 3-D printers. I guess you dont want to spend your summer with a bunch of 17 year olds. What is the best way to locate these programs, through the universities directly. Youth Leadership Institute (YLI) The deadline to submit your YLI 2023 application is on Friday, February 24, 2023, 5:00 PM Pacific Time (PT). It is much cheaper and you get great benefits from it. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. The program will probably have the word leadership in its name, and the invitation to apply will most . All of these programs are equally credible. If you get this information together and look through the opportunities, including the NYLF seminar, youll be able to see which ones really appeal to you. You will find other summer options out there. Thats for you to decide. Please if your kids have the experience, please share. Hi Megan, However, there are no admission criteria for NYLF. For high school students, the 18-day programs range from $5,495-$5,795, the nine-day programs run from $2,995-$3,295, and the six-day programs are $2,595. My son is now a sophomore, we can drive to DC and has an interest in National Security/Military. The wall on the left of the massive gym boasted painted blue and white and sports displays, the majority of them being because of basketball. Put succinctly, Envision EMI is very slick, very clever company with marginal ethics that has found a niche in capitalizing and exploiting on the close and trusting relationship between parents, students, and teachers. I was so excited and proud of her but the cost seems outrageous. r/ApplyingToCollege is the premier forum for college admissions questions, advice, and discussions, from college essays and scholarships to SAT/ACT test prep, career guidance, and more. I wish to know if as a introductory to engineering would this be worth it? I also had to confirm receipt of getting the letter within 24 hours but did not have to make any decisions at that time. Im just a bit confused about why i was nominated for that. Is there any other programs that will have a better price than the NYLF? The main difference between the two is that subsidized loans require the government to pay interest while a student is in school and unsubsidized loans have students pay the interest themselves. I received this nice package too in the mail. I understand the cost, and my family is prepared to shell out the cash. I also remember a field trip to the mallgreat waste of money. The Stolen Heir A new Elfhame experience, Animation studios should follow in Arcanes footsteps. Theyll probably give out flight tickets closer to the date. Its a bought-and-paid for program that doesnt give you a big gain on the admissions thing. Look closely at the scheduled activities at each camp. What an awesome nomination for him to receive. HI Megan, I keep reading about the marketing scam and the cost. Ive seen that they have scholarships and fundraising that would help though. Or because its been taken down? Not offered now. I have not researched the nomination process, but I have to believe it is more than teacher recommendations. You will meet people from all over the U.S. because it is not offered for the NYLF program. ]]]>, enrichment experiences, National Youth Leadership Forum, summer programs, summer programs for high school students, I am a sophomore in High School and considering the National Youth Leadership Forum. Im always the first to be able to tell something is a scam and the amount of money my parents waste on me should not rise anymore, but the NYLF for Engineering (a career path I am not sure if I really find interest in anymore , but I circle on the SAT anyway) is in San Francisco and I would love to go there without parents even if its a scam. Both my kids built a much more sophisticated robot in a local camp at 25% of the cost. If we had to fly our son in from, say, California, I dont think we would have chosen to do this for financial reasons. Jonathan, Youth Leadership Consortium - Scam? 2022 YLS presentation at the NCCEP/GEAR UP Annual Conference in Washington, DC. Im just so unsure about the whole thing. Note that YLS is a 3.5-day, national training program that involves travel, overnight stays in a hotel, peer-to-peer learning, and various trainers and experiential learning. I did take the PSAT but I did not say anything about National Security. One of the pages urged us to call within 48 hours to confirm receipt of the invite so we would not lose our spot should we decide to enroll. The program is overpriced and why go into the medical field when Obamacare is destroying the medical field. My daughter (3rd) grade was nominated for this summer program. On the positive side, Ive had students attend these programs and leave feeling more motivated about their future plans. ACT is a registered trademark belonging to ACT, Inc. ACT, Inc. is not involved with or affiliated with College Prep Results, LLC, nor does ACT, Inc. endorse or sponsor any of the products or services offered by College Prep Results, LLC. Also the workload and getting used to [will be difficult], she said when asked about potential obstacles that she could face while going to college. We want all schools to aspire to, achieve, and remain committed to a biblically-based philosophy of education, standards that are measurable, and flourishing-related criteria. Any one have thoughts? So this isnt your only chance. Megan. This spring tens of thousands of high school students will receive news that they have been nominated to attend a "highly selective" or "exclusive" one-week summer program. We were told 24 hours to notify them, Iam so glad I saw all these comments, I think I d rather gas up my car and spend the $$$ on visiting museums & historical sights over the summer instead. Then you can sit your parents down and talk to them as the young adult you are, and they will know that youve genuinely thought about what it is you want to do. My package actually says to call within 24 hours. Would he get more out of the program if you waited a year or two? I think its great that youre reviewing this programs, so thank you for writing this review. Their tech was team building a robot. I am very prudent of her for getting the recommendation from her teacher but Id like to know just how many kids they recommend compared to how many actually go. So we have found great alternatives at a fraction of the price. It was a lot of marketingI was really excited as a high schooler when I was nominated but it really wasnt worth it. and our When the people called me it was much more of a sales pitch than anything else. @Seventeencarat Hey! Will he need to be nominated again to attend at an older age? Matt, I have had students attend these programs in the past and enjoy them. From time to time we would receive nomination forms soliciting names and contact information. Its not as though federal and private security firms are opening their doors to high school interns or volunteers. They do grant a limited # of partial scholarships. Anyone who is currently a high school student can register for and attend an NYLF program. I dont think its about feeling special at all. Theyre overprotective and i was wondering if someone could answer that question. I think you would be ready, but I agree about the cost. Still, the BBB rating doesnt seem to reflect the user comments on the site (https://www.bbb.org/washington-dc-eastern-pa/business-reviews/lecture-and-seminar-bureaus/envision-emi-in-washington-dc-7001305/reviews-and-complaints). But.. it was lego stuff (not to mention drag coding to make the thing go.. that kinda defeats the purpose). The NYLF programs are not bad, but they are financially out of reach for many. Even though I bought the travel insurance, it says they can keep your full tuition amount. After confirming the number of slots requested and approved, grantees are responsible for the following steps to enroll students in the YLS program: NCCEP seeks to create a geographically diverse cohort of students and encourages programs to choose students from different schools. Megan. Megan. If your execting fun and games then this isnt the program for you. Ask if they sponsor any youth programs, or if there are any volunteer opportunities for high school students. The 6 day conference in Chicago is quite expensive, as other people have posted, around $2,000. Just so you understand the nomination processteachers, counselors, and deans are sent nomination forms. I got one for medicine, but I want to be an ICU nurse, not a doctor. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. My stepdaughter has often been excluded from many advanced opportunities due to the fact that we are not part of the inner circle of elites in our community. However, if it doesn't present a financial burden to your family and there's a program that truly . Im glad the program is legit, and Im glad its being held where we can drive in couple hours and drop her off. You can find other excellent opportunities that cost less. This is not a scam, but this program is no more recognized than other organized summer-camp program. Our goal at Envision by WorldStrides is to help students grow as people by developing independence, leadership, problem-solving skills, worldliness, and maturity. I do think there are other less expensive options that will provide extra enrichment and experience in the field. Just further proof that they purchase mailing lists and send these exclusive offers to anyone on a college-bound track. Cookie Notice What do you get out of it? they do offer scholarships! Megan. The workshops were all dissimilar; each grade level got to learn from two different workshops. So do some research and compare options before deciding which one is right for you. You might want to compare the National Youth Leadership Forum offerings to the programs offered by different colleges. Megan, Thanks Megan! Edit: It isnt necessarily a scam because you actually do what the program offers, it just doesnt seem worth the cost. Your day starts around 7 and ends at 9 I believe. She told me no you will do it. 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