With the heavy movement Doktor cant cover both the NORTH and SOUTH side above and below him, without flying. : 4, 5 It has lost all it's charm. Some businesses may choose to continue requiring customers to wear masks to enter or receive service. We do not charge for downloads nor collect any fees from users. Nick: Ok . : 4, 18 No, the server cannot check the extrapolation. I can only guess that you're probably very busy and you rather ignore some of the bugs/problems. Make sure your sound is on! Extrapolation: Remove limits, Last limit 1000 Extrapolation Room Search: quickly filter rooms by their room names (or partial room names) using the search bar above the room list. I guess I played this game long enough to have a valid view on the game, so I'll share my view, as well. HTML5 HaxBall before the extrapolation did exist, was way too superior to Flash HaxBall, we all enjoyed playing HTML5 back then. The problem is that Basro doesn't play the game (or he actually plays, but not competitively), to understand the game well to understand people what they wanna say. Admin Kick/Ban shortcuts: having difficulties kicking or banning abusive users quickly? I especially agree with what Jacob mentioned in his post, if it's possible to match the physics of the game to the previous flash version that would be great and maybe it's worth a try? Also more patterns in the game that can be recognised and used for tactics/creativity/moments of genius. Is this an issue of you not believing us about the Physics being different? The same applies to passing, when you are reading your teammates movement, you see him turn to you heavy/longer, and you see this before it happens (and with experience you know exactly what situations they will do it), so you give yourself more time to adjust your positioning so that you give the perfect pass back or the perfect angle to shoot. A long-delayed feature - "I did in fact lag" shortcut, double click the ping graph (or ping area) to send info about your ping, max ping, fps, and red bars. Local mute: don't want to see a certain player's messages? hayr srf sahada dolaan insanlar var bu oyunda. But I remember, back then you decreased the extrapolation between -50 and 50 if I'm not wrong. HaxBall News Play About Community Flash. : -200 200ms . Added a new zoom option. I agree with Jacob the old gameplay in flash was much more fun and skillful. The real issue of haxball is that you rarely make updates even when some of them are easy to do. Try to use that to your advantage. Original Article https://github.com/haxball/haxball-issues/wiki/Chat-Commands, https://github.com/haxball/haxball-issues/wiki/Chat-Commands, How to Host a Haxball Headless Bot Script on Your Computer. We have to use annoying extrapolation or play with a huge disadvantage. HaxBall. I'm wasting my time to try and help you improve this game, so it's playable for the next few years, but you refuse our help with some scientific answers. These two effects combined could very well change how the hb classic game plays, the higher ping makes some jukes more effective since it's harder to read what your opponent is doing. Extrapolation If you want to view your extrapolation without entering a room or opening the console, type in the command bar extra Although I don't support the choice, since it was highly requested a command to uncap the extrapolation is also available extraunlock You only need to launch this command once. Never argue with an idiot. Two new buttons have been added to the Room list view: Add Room and Show Rooms. You don't realize you are asking for things that are quite literally impossible to implement in a way that isn't trivial to bypass. ignore few people, most of players are used to it and have no problem using extrapolation. Hide chat toggle: if you really want to focus on the game without the transparent chat log, now you have it! Type in the search term "spacebounce+soccer" and you'll have it! Shortcuts let you type frequent commands/messages by expanding a shorter piece of text. Stay tuned for future updates. Since this feature is client side, even if I remove the feature from the client hosted in haxball.com "cheaters" could find a way to reenable it. Sadly, this time about HaxBall Champions League (HCL) final that just happened yesterday. b) the final cup match: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=0dabecffd607cf9788c77c957ae4cff4 11:33, it's just a new meta like these fake kicks (which is even a feature request, even with new meta we can't create chances which is so annoying, you can just pray for these goals to not be in some matches). Adds a certain amount of milliseconds of lag to your client, this can be used to give yourself a disadvantage. which is completely understood since you own nothing to anyone. If you liked making the game, then you should listen people playing your game and compare thoughts = more money = more updates. These are real problems that have gone on for too long, Haxball can do much better than this and I know you can too, its possible. Example:/kick_ratelimit 2 15 3If a player spams kick hell kick every 2 frames for the first 4 kicks and after that hell be limited to one kick every 15 frames ( which is 4 kicks per second ). The solution should be to tweak the game physics to make it harder to defend. https://www.haxball.com/replay?v=3#https://hax.saviola.de/r/?h=51666653b8e41b8657794a90322c35e7.hbr2. Like6 Haxball Replay Analyzer is the one and only tool to analyze haxball replays. It is entirely possible that flash had slightly higher input lag (although I don't really feel it and many people have complained to me that html5 has higher input lag). : 5, 8 It is a very competitive game that has a lot of replay value. As you remember I gave you a long detailed email explaining the precise details as to why the TINY Input Delay (arguably 0.05msec or less, needs testing though), gave the game MUCH more structure and depth and fun and addicting everything else already stated. Perdn, pero hace mucho que ya no juego HaxBall y probablemente ya no puedo ayudarte. Hello Guest Log In HaxBall Chat Bar Commands This is quite a good result, as only 20% of websites can load faster. : 3, 0 A forum for the hungry members of the Haxball community. If you play in the sweet spot (~20-60ms) predictions are most of the time accurate, meaning your rendering is smooth and you see almost no stuttering. -/-, Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Just saying that basro is right at least on one point that none of you mentionned, It is waaaaaay easier to juke a player having 100 ping than 30 (the current average of western europe) Fake kicks happen when the prediction was wrong. New in version 0.3.4: New options page and text expansion macros! Demo Chat Bubble This cheat comes in three different modes: open, close, and blink. Theres a reason Haxball was a huge success on Flash, and regular Haxball was the most popular mode. No matter what keyboard layout you are, just find the key right below ESC! So basro, PLEASE digest all of this and take action. by Katrina February 28th, 2020, 4:54 am, by supernatural February 28th, 2020, 5:13 am, by saviola February 28th, 2020, 7:51 am, by supernatural February 28th, 2020, 12:47 pm, by saviola February 28th, 2020, 12:54 pm, by supernatural February 28th, 2020, 1:10 pm, by saviola February 28th, 2020, 1:11 pm, by supernatural February 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest, Jump to: Board index Other Stuff General Discussion. I've already explained why it can't be removed. If he cant find that number, I and many here would be more than happy to test different numbers until we find the one that we agree feels exactly like Flash again. HaxApp. Don't just go chasing after the ball all the time. (Oyun bunu 200 ile snrlam,haxball-extrapolation After that, you updated something and almost all players started to have input delay including me, it wasn't even the same physics, I can remember it really well. As far as I'm aware, this is not against any TOS however, I do not accept responsibility for any damage caused by this script. Players must compete against other players to try and score as many goals as possible. No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth. Using extrapolation amplifies the effect of prediction errors, but only for your own client. If you can't change anything else, at least limit the extrapolation to 100, if 50 was too drastic for that vocal minority that made you change it back to how it is now (it was literally 5 people who were mad about losing their advantage over others, but because they were so loud and threatening you decided you'd better change it back). #3 Aula Haxball - Extrapolation tpc 368 subscribers Subscribe 217 Share Save 11K views 1 year ago #haxball #tupac #aula Contato: Discord - @tpc #9100 Twitter - @mvrcxlx Show more Show more Chat. The only downside is the jitter and "teleporting" that comes with it, ofc and even that is mostly annoying only when you don't have possession. Because the Flash skills rely much more on tempo (extrapolation messes with your timing), not who has the quickest possible fingers and reaction times. : 7, 14 The options for this is tucked into the add-on settings, or can be accessed through extension menu/add-ons menu under options/preferences. https://i.imgur.com/S3S471s.png. The owner of this website is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. Also heres an interesting thought, if you cant remove Extrapolation but do manage to match the physics to the same as the Flash Machine, maybe the Extrapolation wont be an advantage on those physics anyway. Remove extrapolation: I already tried this, it was a shit-fest, I wont try it again. Las Grandes Ligas HaxBall te ofrece 6 torneos de 6 modalidades diferentes. It's all based on battle spams, which is really "nice"? As an oldschool player, I don't think the thing "extrapolation" has been as positive thing. Comes together with the text expansion macro. Movement is faster, but space is limited, you'll get a robotic gameplay with 0 creativity and 0 options, the only way to score would be through spam and fake kicks (and harsh opponent's mistakes obviously), which is what's happening nowadays. It's not fun anymore. It was really enjoyable and smooth in only 1 day, sadly. c) the HaxBall Champions League final: https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=2d8dadb4b2491a014fa5cfbe3fa839bd 37:11, 39:42, 44:06, new meta = random goals, not luck and that's it. Flash HaxBall, HTML5 HaxBall and "extrapolation", https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=cb02beef55922cf42e641effe712bed4, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=0dabecffd607cf9788c77c957ae4cff4, https://thehax.pl/forum/powtorki.php?nagranie=2d8dadb4b2491a014fa5cfbe3fa839bd, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmY5TWERnw&t=48m28s, https://fm-haxball.co.uk/community/viewtopic.php?p=91629#p91629. Extrapolation was introduced to help the players with input delay, but the amount of players who have that problem is a small minority. There is still a passionate debate if this is actually a big advantage for players abusing these values or not. Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Group. So trying to fix a small problem, has caused a new bigger problem. If a teammate has the ball then look for a strategic point to position yourself in where you're both open for a pass and in advantage over the opposing team. It's really painful to play this game at the moment and that there's no similar game like Haxball which is even more painful. Basro said it's a feature, but why does the effect increase with more extrapolation? First off, I don't think any of us want flash back, you can go ahead and try it here - http://www.haxball.com/flash/ you will quickly realize how bad it actually was. Only the host can use this command. to your account. This is important as you will see further below. Well, basro I love the communication, that's what's the most important thing to me. Adding a limitation to extrapolation is not effective, as it's very easy to bypass (you can modify the game's code to remove that limit). Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest, Jump to: Board index Haxball General Haxball Discussion. : 6, 4 people only come to this game for official games. It can be used to counteract the effects of input delay but at the cost of extra "warping" in the game prediction. The Flash Engine added tiny Input Delay to all actions, thats why the physics are different despite having the same code. Only admins can use this command. On FLASH as you see, he chooses to cover the SOUTH side and misses the ball, he doesn't recover with his heavy movement pulling him away from jasko. It has nothing to do with me agreeing or disagreeing with it being bad for the game. Pay attention at how your opponents are moving and take advantage of their momentum. So if you somehow hacked the client codes and changed it to 160 after setting it to 120, the server will send a command to game and it will revert your extrapolation back to 120, or better you get desynchronization. As far as I understand, latency is when something has happened in the game, but is concealed and there is a delay between when it happened and when you see it happen. The client comes in two versions which only differ for one thing: Only a good PC can handle unlimited FPS, so download the Lite version if the Standard gives you any ping/performance issue! I understand that you're the only man who knows everything about Haxball like these stuffs, codes, etc. I think you can easily predict x fakes if you know when they are going to use them, I used 200 extrapolation many months ago and I have no input lag currently. A forum for the hungry members of the Haxball community. : 1, 6 , Press J to jump to the feed. New in version 0.3.7: Fix for autojoin - for rooms with similar names/same distance Causes the game to extrapolate by a certain amount of milliseconds. Where can I find you? But it is cancerous as fuck these days if not already over 2 years. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. 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