Lots of people have run my easy to use software – but I can guarantee that close to 0% of people circulating NOAA and NASA graphs have done any fact checking. ?Nick doesn’t seem to be too eager to come over on this website and argue the merits of Tony’s work. He is better at Climate etc, It is unfortunate since Mosher knows quite a lot about the temperature reconstruction series, so he could usefully add to the debate, but he does not appear interested.What is so silly about this is that Phil Jones in his 1980 paper, and Hansen in his 1981 paper essentially accepted these temperature profiles.Further, the IPCC Chapter 7 Observed Climate Variation and Change on page 214 in Figure 7.11 also shows that the NH temperatures as at 1989, was cooler than the temperature at 1940, and the temperature as at 1920. NAS was NH data. The data is being adjusted to match CO2 theory.People like Nick will kick up as much dust as they can to obscure this fact, but Nick has nothing intelligent to say on this topic. USHCN makes up almost the entire NOAA/NCDC US temperature record. Lots of other people have run the code.So after being shown wrong, he has changed his story and made an idiotic statement that he There are so many things wrong with this statement, it is difficult to know where to begin. This is all mainstream, so why does Nick Stokes join issue.Meanwhile your comment is devastating for Nick to handle.Nick, is a professional disinformation dissembler. In 1971, NASA/GISS/NAS/NCAR were well aware of the radiative properties of CO2, the famed basics physics of so called GHGs and the GHE, and the forcing attributable to CO2, and yet Schneider assessed Climate Sensitivity to CO2 to be approximately 0.5degC per doubling.We will report here on the first results of a calculation in which separate estimates were made on the effects on global temperature of large increases in the amount of CO2…in the atmosphere. GISS graphs were land only until about 2003.The issue Ray alludes to is that in addition to the issueI thought the implication of that plot was obvious. I am not sure why when he has access to the facts and the knowledge to put it together he acts in such a contrarian manner.“There was very little digitised global data in 1974.”Therefore, as far as Nick Stokes is concerned, every government sourced global temperature chart & map that starts prior to or references data prior to 1974 is fraudulent.Wow. In recent years, the percent of fake data has skyrocketed to close to 50%.Nick claims that USHCN is obsolete, which is also complete BS. So simply believe them. The raw data set is the measured temperatures. I am far from convinced that the Northern Hemisphere is today any warmer than it was in the late 1930s/early 1940s notwithstanding that during this time man has emitted some 95% of his CO2 emissions.I consider that we should ditch the thermometer temperature reconstructions, and start from scratch, by assessing say the best 200 sited stations across the Northern Hemisphere, which are definitely free of all manmade change , and then retrofit these stations with the same type of LIG thermometers as were used in the 1930s/1940s calibrated in the same way as used at each station (on a station by station basis), put in the same type of Stevenson screen painted with the same type of paint as used in the 1930s/1940s, and then observe using the same observational practices and procedures as used in the 1930s/1940s at the station in question. That still doesn’t make it comparable to GISS land/ocean.”“That still doesn’t make it comparable to GISS land/ocean.””Angus, is it possible to find what stations were used to produce the data for the 1985 DOE graphic?I would love to see that raw data verses what they have done with it today.So SH data was very sparse in the 1970s, and SST data was very sparse as well.

?Or are you actually accessing ClimDiv, Tony ? USHCN forms the basis of the US temperature record.I am thinking that ClimDiv is the public façade for USHCN 2.5.Will anyone be able to get Nickers to ADMIT he is wrong !!

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