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Hi Jennifer, What about Timberlake? Hi Paul! We ordered on Nov. 29, 2018 and cabinets arrived Jan. 16th and installer just put the moulding around the top on March 8th. One rep, one company to deal with and several brands to choose from. Will, As we close the Allen + Roth cabinets and KraftMaid comparison, you can better understand how the two cabinets work and their distinct qualities. That usually means they are also poor designers. Our glide system has a larger weight-bearing surface that creates a smoother and quieter gliding motion. 2) These are two tiny companies that I dont know. Im in the process of having samples ordered from Belmont. So, its now about making the best of the situation. MDF doors would be the worst idea if you want a kitchen to last. I appreciate any freedback. Other reviews say they come unfinished, scratched, the quality isnt good. We are considering their full plywood construction boxes, including solid plywood top. For even a more transitional look such as the mini-shaker, would you still recommend a framed cabinet with full overlay for durability and aesthetics? Hi Ayanna, You seem to be thinking that you are capable of designing your kitchen alone and just need cabinet boxes. The company offers a wide range of door styles, wood types, finishes, sizes, and decorative styles. Also, the stained finishes seem rather flat Is that typical? Thx for your advice. If so, thats a bad idea generally and as a designer that makes us all crazy as you would be stealing our intellectual property. I have a screen shot from her resource but it doesnt look like I can do an attachment here. cant thank you more! (mainlinekitchendesign.com), What Kitchen Cabinet Brand is the Best for Me? There are two other sensible ways to go that are simpler and offer more options more easily. Was shorter in my head. For a European cabinet it looks fine. Overall, there are probably better choices to make in a framed line that would be less expensive and better made. Ron Selak Jr. MIDDLEFIELD The company that owns kitchen and bathroom cabinet maker KraftMaid, which has manufacturing facilities in Ashtabula and Geauga counties, has sold the division to a . KraftMaid. Medallion -Door is MDF core and maple frame. Its a shame that they dont do a better job documenting cabinet construction when they make changes. Hi Dan, 3. Timberlake is about the same price as Aristocraft and has 1/2 plywood sides and backs, as does Fabuwood, instead of the 1/3 that Aristocraft uses. I think that a combination of the availability of the better made import/US brands, combined with consumer awareness, and also our ratings, which are read by over 2000 people each week are forcing cabinet companies to offer this upgrade. Read these two blogs to help you understand why: https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/reasons-not-to-buy-cabinets-from-kitchen-contractors/ Since you got onto this path once I would recoomend letting us critique and fix your design on our Friday help line and podcast. This makes us very uncomfortable to go with such a product, although we do have some friends who have used this contractor and the cabinetry. Not sure if the difference is worth 7K as that would depend on the door style finish and construction upgrades you are picking in each line. Were looking at White shaker door style. Any intel on them? Omega I feel good about them, but always looking for second opinion/confirmation. 2. Hi Paul we are interested in a white shaker door with slim rails/stiles (~1 inch). On top of that, you can also achieve a refined traditional look with a perfect visual balance with this brand. There are under 5 photos of 3 different kitchens on their website. Price comparing your design at different dealers often leads you down a bad road. Looking online they seem comparable, but the price point is significantly different. Do you happen to know the quality of the painted Kitchen Cabinet Distributor cabinets? Im not sure whether these differ from Thomasville? Your time and advice is most appreciated. Read about framed vs frameless here: Good to see the #s are making sense. Thank you! Also, Im assuming a 4 means they cost quite a bit. They are a good entry level cabinet brand from Masterbrands. Hi Paul, so wished we live closer! I know Fabuwood has the newer Luna lineis it worth it to opt for a more semi-custom brand such as Wellsford or St. Martin (which is only frameless)? They are: Carry Wellborn. Expect rougher dovetail drawers, more shipping damage, possible out of stock issues, and slight inconsistencies in construction and finish. Oldest and largest cabinet manufacturer in the USA. From what we know so far, what we need is pretty standard and were just looking to replace what we have now. THEY MUST Masterbrands is not transparent about how they make their cabinetry and so there is no information online on how they make an entry level line like Kemper Echo. You will get several brands that cover several price points from the one company and Rep. You are presumably less educated, less experienced and less informed. I want these cabinets to last, but want to control the costs since we overpaid for the property already and to hedge against a future move. KraftMaid and Schrock seem to be a good quality and their prices are actually fairly comparable (about 22K for a very small kitchen). The warranties are meaningless. If you are renting or flipping, I would use the less expensive brands. When cabinet companies boast about things other than their cabinets I tread carefully. Copyright 2022 Main Line Kitchen Design | Designed & Developed by IntuitSolutions, Bringing Your Kitchen Design Vision to Life, Kitchen Design Mistakes and How to Avoid Them, We are proud to carry the following Countertop Lines. This and the fact that those kitchens arent especially well designed concerns me. It sounds like your designer is not working for a cabinet dealer. If you had to choose between KCD painted shaker in birch or Kraftmaid painted shaker in maple, which would you choose? I believe it is at least 1/2 . Im not sure how the Elements collection is made. Thorton 14 5/8 x 14 5/8 in. Hi Daniel, We are from Texas and there are so many cabinet companies around that is it overwhelming. Our reviews rate how these cabinet brands compare for construction quality and for value considering the price point of each cabinet line. Hi Cie, On the other hand, KraftMaid uses a DuraKraft Plus system that consists of a two-layered topcoat that offers maximum protection by keeping your cabinet free from scraps and stains. https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/price-comparing-kitchen-cabinets-and-why-it-is-a-bad-idea/ Its a smaller builder we really like with otherwise quality/upgraded features, and we have direct access to the owner/builder who oversees everything directly (benefit of smaller). There are many factors to consider when choosing the right windows for your home. Since 2019, all cabinet lines sold in the US are now carb compliant, pass the same tests, and are KCMA certified. St Louis Kraftmade Cabinetry Dealer Lifestyle Kitchens Baths. Does your current rating of Aristokraft factor in that they seem to offer a better quality All Plywood option https://www.aristokraft.com/get-started/learn-about-cabinets/cabinet-construction. And we love inset but Im told it adds quite a bit of cost. The designer said that was what was in her home and the owners home and that it was actually stronger. Are you still carrying that line, and are you seeing longevity issues after a few years? I would select Homecrest and Decora, but there are many options. I dont know those lines, but a good frameless cabinet is easy to identify. Hello Paul: You are screwing cabinets to the wall through 1/4 plywood. The thing that really struck me about their lights were the sleek modern style. The quotes we got for the CNC Elegant were pretty much equal to the Fabuwood Discovery, both 25% less than the Galaxy. Because the KraftMaid kitchen cabinets are made out of Solid Wood. Sorry never heard of Bluestem and their website tells nothing about how the cabinetry is made. Both Kraftmaid and Diamond cabinets have a distinct quality that is both long-lasting and robust. Thanks, Both brands are fine and similar. Im in the Phoenix area and was wondering who your top 3 picks would be for inexpensive to midrange cabinets. Thats why when a company advertises this they get on my radar as being less than transparent. Namely that they need design help far more than they need help picking a brand. THE BRAND STRATEGY Many brands that should thrive,fail to survive. This comparison brings forth a deep analysis of two of the greatest cabinets, so stay tuned! Fabuwood would be made just as well as most of the brands you list and would be almost half the price. Thanks again for your list and thorough attention to the comments section! We want these to be our forever cabinets, but wonder where to begin when choosing one dealer if so many dealers in our area offer good quality cabinets. This is my husband and my first time ever remodeling. The CNC quote is coming in at 25% less than the fabuwood & the USCD is 35% less than fabuwood! Read this blog: Book an Appointment Allen + Roth Cabinetry is sold exclusively at Lowe's, Rno Dpt and Rona Home Centre stores across Canada. They wanted them to read kitchen sales. They are very similar lines so something is wrong with the pricing you are getting. It is the natural solid wood we obtain from various sources, including walnuts, oaks, maple, etc. Use soft close hinges and tracks. https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/kitchen-cabinet-storage-space-framed-vs-frameless-cabinets/. We would give them a B- for construction quality buy 3/4 is only a solid B. Yes No Replies Run Away From Their Kitchen Remodel The other options would be CNC or Fabuwood, increasing in price accordingly. Oppositely, KraftMaid has shaker and arched door styles. Is sheen usually an option? Their website does not give any specifics or much info about their cabinetry. We have to replace our kitchen due to a leak and the price of KCD is appealing, but I want to make sure we are getting something that will last many years. Thank you! Keep in mind that it makes little sense to be getting frameless unless you are getting a slab door style. We are locked in with builder+Sterling since they dont allow outside contractors. Im going to change our rating based on the new upgrade. It turns out that the new house did not really have much in the way of closet organization capability. Can you tell me why Midcontinent gets a C for quality? You should have us critique your design before purchasing cabinetry by calling into our helpline and podcast on a Friday. Read this blog: https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/calls-with-paul-the-kitchen-design-podcast-episode-17/, Awesome! If not, you are wasting money. Was the design done by the designer that sells the brands you mention like J&K and Fabuwood etc? They said we could bring our own designer along if we wanted. Diamond So Wellborn is reviewed for the Estate line. We were told the other perk to US Cabinet Depot is the lifetime warranty vs a 5-year warranty to the original owner? Our desire is for a simple, sturdy, white shaker and we have no significant need for multitudes of options or customizations which is why our designer is recommending theseas a 3/4 plywood box (we would be all over Fabuwood if there was a designer/dealer within 100 miles). Thanks! It depends on the house you run. Ill try to be as succinct as possible, so here it goes. You say with 3/4 back they are an A but it looks like most cabinets come standard with 1/8-1/4 backs. Hi Kathleen, You can pick from their brands. Most US cabinet brands that had poor construction got the message that consumers were getting more savvy when the import lines began selling better built cabinets than theirs for less. CushionClose System Achieve whisper-quiet operation in your kitchen and bath. Anything less than the Estate line would use a particleboard hanging rail which is terrible. Main Line kitchen design acknowledges that we are dealers for the following cabinet lines: Wellsford, Bishop, Brighton, Fabuwood, and Timberlake. This is such a useful comparison of cabinet brands and also contains so much information for novices such as myself. All are in the 4/5ish range and have As and Bs in quality and value. W x 22 in. You have a great blog and I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge. They are another US company importing inexpensive well-constructed cabinets from overseas. Ill update both lines. Hannsem was a good option years ago but I think the US imports do a better job for a better price now. Custom is the most expensive cabinetry. there is an update about Ultracraft that their ply upgrade only come to 5/8ply sides, top, bottom, no 3/4 option. But I am trying to maximize storage in my small condo kitchen (aka hobbit hole) if it is too expensive from the manufacturer, is an after-market product an alternative? It is NO RELATION to the Thomasville Furniture Company. Not telling the public something bad is what many cabinet brands do on purpose. Here are blogs on cabinet construction: Most customers complain about things that they should have expected like painted cabinets being nicked and scratched easily, or damaged by water as all painted cabinets are. My second bid was painted, full front but furniture board construction. If it gives you comfort Fabuwood start a giving a lifetime warranty in a few weeks. We want a wood island, shaker, that well put our oven and microwave into (3 boxes). Kraftmaid has 100 different door styles, 70 finish options, more than 200 storage solutions, and a whopping 800 decorative enhancements. Any comments on the quality of the CK cabinet? This is because the frameless construction, while less durable, looks so much better on slab doors. I was surprised to see a major company offering a plywood upgrade, but in small print, states that they may use an MDF core plywood. If you are comparing cabinet brands, CLICK HERE first! KraftMaid is a big name in the world of cabinets due to its innovative systems and features, quality, durability, large storage space, and many customization options. At KraftMaid Cabinetry, we want to help you in every possible way as you design and create the special places in your home. The top of the door has an arc-shaped structure and is mostly used in large, traditional kitchens. And another relevant blog: https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/hard-compare-kitchen-cabinet-brands/, Thanks for so many detailed replies (wish there was a way to search the conversations). They dont charge anything to design the kitchen and they have many different brands they offer including lots of others from your list like 21st Century, J&K, Fabuwood, etc. Hi Subra, https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/hard-compare-kitchen-cabinet-brands/. First the contractor is making money through them. Both of these places are not brands. I still wouldnt give top marks for value because the upgrade will be expensive compared to less expensive brands that only come with all plywood construction. https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/what-cabinet-line-is-the-best/ Interested in possibly frameless cabinets but want them to be good quality. I would give them a B or possibly a B+ if I knew a little more about what their new upgrade offers. I didnt see them listed in your cabinet reviews. I wanted my cards to say Paul McAlary Kitchen Designer. Of course, a good carpenter could modify the cabinetry to correct the terrible engineering. Showing an American flag, while not saying how they make cabinets. Decorative Enhancements Replacement Parts Bath Cabinet Care From roll-out trays for kitchen cabinets to insert kits and dividers for drawers, KraftMaid has a variety of kitchen storage solutions and accessories for every passionate organizer. Thanks for this site and all the wonderful information and knowledge you provide! One dealer gave me an average box price of $1500 for Durasupereme, which you have rated at a 5 in cost, so I made a list of 4s with vendors in my area. Full disclosure: regarding quality, KraftMaid cabinets win by a mile. The are American made, family owned company, and appear to have good solid construction. Thanks! They are transparent in what they offer, well made, have many wood species to choose from, and most of the most popular door styles and finishes. Use 3/4 thick plywood sides allen + roth Cabinetry Construction Construction Our three construction levels fit nearly every budget without sacrificing the look and feel of your new space. Sometimes their dealers notify us to changes as one of Yorketowns dealers did. Both these brands make pretty inferior frameless cabinetry, and they arent even particularly inexpensive. Estate is 1/2 inch ply back with a 1/2 ply hanging rail. Below is our list of the top selling cabinet makers in the United States, and our kitchen cabinet comparison for those brands. I didnt know the line, but I looked at their website and was VERY impressed. The finish on painted cabinetry is less durable than stained cabinetry on ALL cabinet brands. I expected the finish to be more like my furniture, which has a bit more sheen. Just an fyi the info I received from my designer states the standard Starmark cabinet has a 1/4 plywood back and 1/2 rail . Kraftmaid is a good brand. So, if you wanted to switch to a private dealer where the experience might be better and you could get the same cabinetry, door styles and colors you could. I would guess that since they boast (with flag waving) that they are assembled and stored in the US but say nothing about where they are made, that the doors and parts are made in Mexico. They want no changes. By the way, no kitchen cabinet dealers sell small Amish manufacturers cabinets. Thank you so much for your very educational website! Im not sure on the distinction youre making. Im going to guess at pricing and say that since they are a custom line that I dont know that they would price out at about a 5.5. Hi Paul, And he said there is a hanging rail so Im not sure why you say its like hanging through 1/4 plywood . Sturgess 61 in. And then you are considering taking that design to the two distributers to buy cabinets? We are buying kitchen cabinets and our considering Merillat, but you have them rated as a poor value and quality. The cabinet has good quality, an easy setup process, adequate storage space, and comes at an affordable price. Thank you! This list is garbage. With a company this small I also worry about how they will fair during tough economic times. Or Wellborne has several lines in their one brand that cover several price points. That is why Im confused . Kahles makes a nice cabinet, but I dont like the company. What shall I do (wringing hands)??? We were dealers for US Cabinet Depot, and we wouldnt recommend the painted door styles for anything except flipping a house. I came across this review page surfing for reviews on Kraftmade Cabinets. Covid-19 Updates: Designing Your Kitchen Remotely. If you are getting a slab door style then there could be reasons why the line could be a good selection depending on door style, finish, and sizing. Im not sure which inexpensive lines are available for you in NM but Fabuwood is the best of the inexpensive brands on the east coast. See this link: Some very nice and very expensive cabinet brands use terrible construction methods. They also dont have the supply chain problems that both Cabinet Depot and CNC do right now. Finally, a site that makes sense. Thanks for your response . American Woodmark Corporation is the Allen and Roth cabinets maker with nine manufacturing points in the United States. These lines receive lower grades on value because there are competitors offering the same quality at slightly lower prices. Stains are more durable than paints, however inexpensive brands will usually have limited stain color available. Is it really that bad and what other cabinets do you recommend in schuler price point with positive experiences. SO DO NOT: 1) Purchase expensive cabinetry believing the finish will be more durable 2) Blame less expensive cabinet brands for being responsible for paint chipping, scratching, or being damaged by water. These styles look best in frameless construction, and it is worth the step down in durability. Cabinet Door Sample in Dove White. Allen Roth Cabinets Vs Kraftmaid In Depth Differences Brighton Cabinets Vs Kraftmaid In Depth Comparison Kitchen Cabinet Ratings For 2018 Reviews Top Ing Brands Best Kitchen Cabinets 2022 Where To Medallion Schuler Cabinets Vs Dura Supreme Kraftmaid A Step By Guide To Choosing Kitchen Cabinets . https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/transparency-is-priceless-in-a-kitchen-showroom-or-kitchen-contractor/, Main Line Kitchen Design is happy to advise people on the design of their new home free of charge on our Friday help line and podcast 2-4 pm. I was comparing Ultracraft and Kitchen Craft for my kitchen, both frameless. We chose Brighton and Wellsford over considering Kahles as one of our custom brands. Also , after looking at the one Starmark upper cabinet we have and talking to my husband I believe you are right that the back is only 1/4 but my husband later said he couldnt recall the exact details . Hi Dima, Working with that company will probably not be in your best interest. There are so many well-made inexpensive cabinet brands why choose an expensive brand and get them cheapy made. Calls with Paul: The Kitchen Design Podcast. Compare. Sorry, I guess thats more than 4 actual questions. https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/how-to-make-a-better-kitchen-cabinet/, My husband installed 5 Starmark standard cabinets in our basement level What do you think of kitchen cabinet distributors? We judge by how the company makes the cabinet. You can get something expensive and rework the structure with every change. 04) What Financial Return Do You Get on a New Kitchen? Starmark un upgraded comes in second. Here is a blog about why Kraftmaid might wrongly get some bad reviews. Headquartered in Ann Arbor, Michigan, Cabinetworks is the largest independently owned manufacturer and distributor of kitchen and bath cabinets in the United States, with brands that include . Just wondering what the * next to Thomasville is for? Schuler is the most expensive brand that either home center sells so that means you have picky customers splurging on cabinetry but often with a streak of cheapness since they are shopping at a Lowes. Use solid wood dovetail drawers or heavy-duty contemporary type drawers. Hi Dima, Filter Results Sort By: Featured Items Then, rest easy: each comes backed with our Lifetime Limited Warranty, assuring outstanding value for as long as you own your home. That was why I didnt work with some builders while I was at Sterling. GOOD DEALERS CLOSE TO YOU CAN BETTER ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHATS AVAILABLE IN YOUR AREA. KraftMaid should be your next purchase! If you read our blog or listen to our podcast you will see that I repeatedly beg homeowners to stop all the research they do on brands and instead to focus their efforts on finding a good kitchen designer and cabinet dealer. Starmark recently changed how they make their cabinetry. This installation ONLY involved cabinets and not countertops or backsplash in a 10ft galley kitchen. Aristocraft is a bad product and a bad value. 08) Design and Build and Why Splitting the Two Can Make Sense, 09) How To Select a Contractor for a Kitchen Renovation, 12) Price Comparing Kitchen Cabinets and Why It Is a Bad Idea. Add to Cart. Hi Kevin, I. Crown What is your opinion of toe-kick drawers? Starmark without upgrades has neither of these construction features. For instance, essential has half-depth shelves, and select has full-depth shelves. I would recommend HomeCrest, Schrock and Decora. 1) When we talk about painted cabinets in all brands it isnt a liquid paint it is a conversion or catalyzed varnish, or a heated powder. I will go with white shaker, and debate between 21st Century and Fabuwood. I would rate them like CNC. If you want to carry out repairs every two years, you have two options. Fabuwood is infinitely better made and 20 % less. You dont want your kitchen clashing due to multiple colors. Fabuwood, Wolf, CNC, J&K, for example. The others you list are better choices. For flipping a home they would make sense. Ive been told mdf is preferred for painted doors, what are your thoughts on this? Hi Sarah, However, if you are under budget, pick Allen and Roth. We only recommend frameless cabinetry for modern slab type door styles. They have several lines across price points from Fabuwood to Bishop. Allen and Roth manufacture patio furniture with Lowe's Companies, Inc. Lowe's is an American company, which specializes in home improvement. The Ohio-located Kraftmaid Cabinets has been in business for just north of 40 years. Wellborn -maple solid door. Both utilize high-quality woods and have a smooth finish. Can you compare Bishop to Timberlake. The "Soak Test" altered the finished appearance of the tongue-and-groove hardwood, Allen + Roth, and Style Selections samples. This would be needed to make their cabinetry acceptably constructed particularly with a 3/8 back panel. The contractor we are working with is recommending cabinets made by Amish manufacturer located in Indiana. If not, please tell me how I can improve this article. Can you show the rubric you used for rating the different cabinet companies? Owned a construction company and installed cabinets for ten years. Due to the sturdy and durable feature of solid wood, cabinets made of this material are likely to withstand generations of use. Read this blog: The following company's headquarters is located in Mooresville, North Carolina. KraftMaid If you are on the hunt for high-quality, reliable kitchen cabinets that are easily accessible, KraftMaid is the only way to go. US cabinet Depot does import their cabinet parts, as do all the better made less expensive brands. Are you specific on the color you want for your cabinet? It looks like Sterling carries all MasterBrand lines, so Fabuwood doesnt appear to be a viable option. I still havent decided on a brand to go with. I think that all the brands that Lowes and Home Depot carry get poor reviews NOT because there is anything wrong with the brand but because home center designers dont give customers realistic expectations and they make mistakes that get blamed on the cabinet brand. Select Your Construction Essential Package Select Package Here is a blog to read: Dont look for another storage place yet you have this highly convenient cabinet. If you dont recommend them is there a similar price point brand with better quality? The lowes quote was way more even with the discount. However, Kraftmaid does not have as many color options and has a set price. Carpenters can fix the problem on site, but we rate cabinetry the way it is made not after modifications. Hi Ali, Examples are Wolf, J&K, ProCraft and others. Also, our company was reviewing their lines poorly and they realized that that hurt them. I assume that is a viable option as well? After all, they also have some pretty good attributes. Consumers have a hard time grasping that most of the extra money they pay buying higher end cabinetry often goes to the availability of products they arent selecting. I will try to make your next podcast, but wouldnt you know were meeting with the designer that morning. Hi Amy, Shiloh has a very small terribly engineered hanging rail that is used to screw all their cabinets to the wall. 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