I do lose foliage so I am sure growth but as the tree gains size it effects them less. Planning to plant american persimmon on the larger zone 6 acreage. Persimmons are normally dioecious, and female trees require cross-pollination to produce fruit. It regrew new ones and all was well although no flowers. Ken W Wilson pollinator Posts: 1187 Location: Nevada, Mo 64772 Bearing Age:2-3 years after planting My only wish is that they had more to choose from as we would love to order from them again. Here is that Yates tree from the original post, this year. I hope it tastes as good as the fruit looks in pictures. My Early Golden has been a sickly tree and has never even flowered despite being more than 13 years old. I'd like to try Rosseyanka. Thats what mine looked like before June . Nikita's Gift Persimmon. Call 1-800-247-5864 A special self-fertile persimmon from Ukraine. They were very mushy by the time they fell. The objective of this study was to assess the ploidy level of commercially available American persimmon cultivars and native Kentucky persimmon populations. Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! I agree with the suggestion to check out hybrids. I live in Delaware & would like to plant a self fertile American Persimmon tree that would grow to 40-50 ft. There are two races of persimmon: the tetraploid (60-chromosome) race is centered in the southern Appalachian region, while the hexaploid (90-chromosome) race generally occupies a range north and west of the tetraploid range. Pests & Diseases: With proper care and placement Persimmon trees are not bothered by pests or diseases. Grafting American persimmons can be tricky , as they often lose limbs, and it is done at a much later date. There can be discussions on benefits of each but if you are worried about your grafted tree being 40 foot because on Virginiana it will not and will still be a smaller tree. We are not sure if these are Yates or Prok. Also have a semi-dwarf apple tree & a dwarf nectarine, a little less carefree.I hope an American persimmon will round things out. American Persimmon is hardy to minus 25F. Prok is a little like a scorn shape. Zones: 6-9. Persimmons are prized for their dark green, tropical-looking foliage, their yellow, orange, and scarlet fall color, and their striking, large, delicious, bright orange fruits, which, in the case of Asian Persimmon, adorn the tree until well after the leaves have fallen. Site is running on IP address 64.57.184.100, host name centos7b.lightlink.com ( United States) ping response time 9ms . Ripens in October & reaches roughly 12-15 tall. Softening & astringency removal can be done by allowing fruits to ripen in a brown bag, on the counter top, freezing or drying the fruits. It had one flower this year but it fell off. the fall color is beautiful even without leaves. From the Ukraine, Nikita's Gift persimmon tree is a hybrid of Asian and American persimmons. Flow cytometer analysis showed that only four of the selected cultivars were from the tetraploid race: Ennis Seedless, Weeping, Sugar Bear, and SFES; the remaining cultivars were from the hexaploid race. Thank you for those Daniel. Nikitas Gift Hybrid Persimmon is from the Nikita Botanic Garden in Yalta, Ukraine, this unique hybrid of Asian and American Persimmon bears bountiful crops of sweet and flavorful, reddish-orange fruit followed by strikingly beautiful, orange-yellow fall foliage. The 'Hachiya' has been dried in Japan for markets of delicious dried persimmon fruit. Don't have one yet, but plan to get one in the food forest eventually. It's 3/4 Kaki I believe. The other has fruited for a few years now. Meader - if there are any native males around, will likely be fully seeded, and not remarkably better/different than most native D.virginianas. Ive found that they prefer cherry and then plum leaves. The rosseyanka and nikitas gift I planted in the ground but removed them before our cold spell. persimmon onto native American persimmon root stock. This hybrid was introduced by the Nikita Botanical Garden in Yalta, Ukraine. I was able . Monday Friday: 10:00am 4:00pm PST. If you have any questions concerning transit time for your order, please feel free to contact us at info@plantmegreen.com or toll free 855-817-5268. Nikita's gift does not get that big. Phil North Georgia Zone 7 Looking for: All of them, and on and on. Ramv you are getting a great crop! We are a retail garden center servicing our local community & currently not able to ship our products. These batch are larger. Waste of money, So far so good. The persimmons at the Arboretum looked like they were in for a good season last I checked so I'm really hoping to get to taste some of these varieties I haven't had before. Also, just planted a Fuyu persimmon tree (from Wiley's), so I have my hopes there, too.Got a couple of black mulberry (morus nigra) bush plants in the mail recently, as my Illinois Everbearing is doing well (and I very much like its flavor), so I thought I'd give them a shot. Most of the Nikitas Gift and all of the Saijo fruits are still very firm. Ive tasted Nikitas Gift and thought it was great. Thank you. His list includes Americans, Asians, and hybrids. They are also quite a ways from ripening. I certainly don't want a 40' American variety growing in the yard. Tree probably stunted with gravelly soil and is watered throughout summer. When fully ripe and soft, this second-generation hybrid persimmon is sweet and flavorful. I am traveling next week and wanted to ripen some indoors on my travel. If I don't, the Asian persimmon trees will die to the snow line. On root stock you could expect to find it grafted on D. Lotus, D. Virginiana or on D. Kaki. Only 5 years old in ground. It is ready to eat when soft and tender like a tomato. I hate to say it, but I have had zero motivation to get out in the yard and do all the things that need doing. Persimmon trees need about 40 inches of water every year. They get damage in their first coulpe years, but overgrow it really fast. USDA Zone:5-9, Phone: 1-877-353-4028 They are mature and seem to handle all the damage fine, but they dont have the added stress of producing fruit. However, Nikitas Gift is a hybrid of Asian and American species, developed and selected in Ukraine, so I thought, who knows? If you like American Persimmons with bigger fruits and a nice taste are Prok and Yates. I have no helpful advice to give - except to say - Ive heard multiple reports that Rosseyanka does better around here. We graft the Giombo persimmon onto native American persimmon . SPRING SHIPPING: To mitigate the stress on our plants during transit, we will only be shipping Monday thru Wednesday. There are. Mine could definitely use some new leaves. If you grew those in Seattle area, you are the pawpaw king! Its the cherry that is their favorite in my yard. I hope your theory is correct and it will produce fruit next year, being so tall and all:). Apparently they are delicious but their really small between 1 to 2 in Diameter. A dollar coin for scale. Hardy, small tree at 12' in height. I have both varieties and just this year we got enough Nikita fruit to notice that they ripen almost the same, the American fruit turns purplish when ready to eat and goes "mushy" the day after the color change from orange to purple. That's great information about Szukis being a smaller variety. I did not have lck with Meader Persimmon. It was in the ground about 4 years and grew a foot or maybe foot and a half. Wase Fuyu Persimmon. 'Shogatsu' is similar to 'Hanogosho' in tree habit, however, more problems with fruit end splitting and leaf spots occur. Recently my coworker in Vancouver WA told me she has a Fuyu that ripens. They didn't survive a week. Ripening Time:October Persimmon Trees - Nikita's Gift (Astringent) Customer Reviews L 09/07/2022 Lisa Hensleyss Terrible Plants were clearly in a smaller container and recently transplanted to the larger one. Not sure whats wrong. Quantity. I planted a Nikita's Gift a few years ago that wilted and died a few months after planting in the spring, it didn't even make it to its first winter. I'm going to try grafting and budding to the. I have a NG I put in the ground around July last year and it had some partial girdling from rabbits over winter. Apparently they dont mind Neem. Probably the most widely planted fruit tree in the world, Persimmons are found throughout Asia in almost every yard and orchard. Mine really took off this summer, so hopefully more trees will fruit next year. Morton is not far from me in SW Washington, so I thought my experience would be similar. All of these have grown minimally the past two season only puting on maybe 2-3" of growth per branch. They were slightly purple. I also plan on building some shelters for these for the winter month to try and preserve as much wood as possible. I didn't think it had very much flavor compared to the rich flavor and texture of Prairie fruit. Im experiencing the same. Mature tree hgt is about 12' very cold hardy; Ripens late Oct through Nov May be similar to the experience of the other poster here. If you are anything like me then you are probably feeling sick and tired of this cold, wet weather. This is about the 5th year for this tree, 3rd year for bearing fruit. I and a few colleagues were eating dinner with Brie Arthur in Raleigh in 2013. I like Meader Persimmon. Yes I battle them, well actually I just submit to them. I think I let Nikitas Gift overproduce last year. Are they supposed to be? Their plants are in pots instead of bare. Yates already finished producing. Produces small to medium sized oblong fruit with bright red skin & sweet, spicy, firm brown flesh. $0.00. Maybe you can help me with my questions? NG pic taken a minute ago. We are a family owned and operated nursery in Portland Oregon. The first batch that ripened earlier ( same tree) were smaller. I also live in Delaware. A great quality fruit that ripens late season, reaches roughly 12-15 tall & is self-fertile. Persimmon are not reliable true to seed and seedlings should not be labeled the cultivar name of the parent as they may or may not be similar. The NG persimmoons are still very hard. All went well with a mild winter here in central Virginia and it leafed out in March with our mild temperatures. Diospyrus Kaki Tecumseh is a small tree type Asian persimmon named and selected by Dr. Jim Shanks, U of MD. Then came a hard freeze to about 24-26F on April 9 that wiped out all of the limbs. If you can find Early Golden, Yates(Juhl), or Prok, they're a better choice. It is definitely not true that you need a pollinator for American persimmons to fruit, only to produce seeds. Oh well, the Li has plenty of fruit, and fresh works for me.There's an autumn olive I noticed while pedaling my bike to the Acme on Elkton Road that I'm coveting. The flavor is candy sweet and possesses nuances of baking spices, raisins and brown sugar. This exciting new Persimmon hybrid Nikita's Gift is a cross between an American Persimmon variety (virginiana) and the Japanese Persimmon variety (kaki) and it gives us a wonderful fruit tree that is hardy to Zone 5. Im 6b. I am new to this forum, but it looks very professional to me. Lucky P. stated Early golden won taste test year in and year out at Claypool orchard but the fruit is medium size and smaller than Prok and Yates. It is ready to eat when soft and tender like a tomato. Looks beautiful mamuang. Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree Diospyrus kaki x virginiana 'Nikita's Gift' As hardy as the American persimmon and as large as the Asian, Nikita's large crops of 2-1/2 inch, flatt. Pretty clean leaves. that finally has some height, maybe bloom next year, and starts of Coffee Cake and Chocolate that I planted, quite a distance away from the ones that I want to remain seedless. I also just got an H-118, which is a very early American Persimmon. Hi Ram, i look forward to your review on Rojo brillante next year! At OGW we offer a diversity of food plants and their companions from around the world. Among Americans, I've learned that tetraploid (90-chromosome) varieties (the vast majority of named varieties) are parthenocarpic. Cummins Nursery - Fruit Trees, Scions, and Rootstocks for Apples, Pears, Cherries, Plums, Peaches, and Nectarines. Astringent fruits must be overly ripe to achieve sweetness and edibility. Are they supposed to be? Giants with dirt under their nails. The Hachiya is an oblong or cone-shaped large persimmon with bright orange-red skin when ripe. An Asian variety that is deep orange in coloring and slightly elongated and rounded in shape. I planted a large NG persimmon early November of last year. If so does it take long to fruit? Enter number. i believe i'm owed a replacement. 'Fuyu' and its large hybrid 'Jiro' will grow in zones 6-10. Order Persimmon Scionwood Barbra's Blush American Persimmon Bozhy Dar (God's Gift) Hybrid Persimmon Cheong Pyong Asian Persimmon Chibacha Asian Persimmon Chocolate Asian Persimmon Thank you for your nice comments. Latin Name:Diospyros virginiana x kaki Similar ripening habit as Rosseyanka, fall into winter, but unlike Rosseyanka, Nikita's Gift taste more like Asian persimmon. I protected this baby by wrapped it with a large tarp from home depot and stuffed it with leafs in November. JB have gone after her cherry leaves, but not much on her A. pears at all. The Native Persimmon (downloadable ebook reprint of 1915 USDA bulletin), Hybrid seeds in my Nikita's Gift persimmons, Some thoughts on the occasion of harvesting my first-ever peach. Native cultivars include Nikita's Gift ( a native cross with Asian) and Magic Fountain. LeaflingsGardens. I did purchase North American diospyros virginiana persimmons which are quite different then the Asian persimmons. "Trade gallons" are really confusing.) It has had some beetle damage to the leaves, but is in a different part of the yard with either less pressure or it possibly isnt as appealing to the insects. 'Shogatsu' is flattened, non-astringent, of fair quality; bears an abundance of male flowers. The fruit of Giombo is large - much like the shape of the Hachiya, yet the Fruit is a smooth texture and very sweet much like the Saijo persimmon. It is self fertile. I'm not sure how big N.G.would grow. Thanks for the feedback, strudeldog. 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